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Коза-дереза 01.07.2015 11:49

Auctioneers-Scam
 
Here all in one widely known auction house offered me the following conditions of the contract of sale of paintings: auction house offers its services for the realization of the film and, in the case of a sale of work through the gallery, undertakes to pay me a sum of (say) 15.e. If the operation is not implemented via the art gallery, the auction auction will start with (say) 14.e. and, in case of sale with the auction, my income is 85% of the proceeds, and revenue of the auction house 15%. Next. If work will not be realized at the auction, the auction house reserves the right to implement work within 14 days and pays me $ 14.e.
Gentlemen! Please explain it to me publicly on the forum page or in PM this, in my opinion fraudulent business scheme. In gratitude for this offer to merge speculators, if you will.
Thank you and kind to us all day.

John Preston 01.07.2015 12:06

All around - a real crooks and charlatans!! :D:D

Кирилл Сызранский 01.07.2015 12:14

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Сообщение от Коза-дереза (Сообщение 3491921)
please Explain it to me publicly on the forum page or in PM this, in my opinion fraudulent business scheme.

Where's fraudulent scheme? You were offered the usual scheme of sale or through a gallery or at auction.
I don't see in these proposals an unnamed auction house is nothing like trying "theft of another's property or the acquisition of another's property by deception or abuse of trust" that, in General, is the "fraud".

Коза-дереза 01.07.2015 12:25

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 3491961)
Circle - solid crooks and charlatans!! :D:D

I assure You that decent people still left in this world ;)

Коза-дереза 01.07.2015 12:50

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Сообщение от Кирилл Сызранский (Сообщение 3491991)
So You have to explain - but where's fraudulent scheme? You were offered the usual scheme of sale or through a gallery or at auction.
I don't see in these proposals an unnamed auction house is nothing like trying "theft of another's property or the acquisition of another's property by deception or abuse of trust" that, in General, is the "fraud".
Generally, You will be hard to realize your things with this approach:

Auctioneers is the "huckster".
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We are, as I understand, work alisova?

Offered as a time-integrated sale through the gallery and auction. In my view, the auction house needs to undertake mediation for the sale. Pushers are those who bought cheap and sell dear. In my case it's not even a huckster. Sell high on someone else's property, acquiring ownership through a contract registered by those about which you say, putting the owner of this property, sorry, "cancer", and is called fraud. If You are jarring let's call it a Scam :)
Well, the last. Some of the questions you cannot get answers, because they don't ask ;)
And yet. It is better to sell cheap than to be a sucker. Excuse me for sharpness.

Кирилл Сызранский 01.07.2015 13:21

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Сообщение от Коза-дереза (Сообщение 3492071)
Sell high on someone else's property, acquiring ownership through a contract registered by those about which you say, putting the owner of this property, sorry, "cancer"

How is it that the auction house can acquire the ownership of Your property by contract? You or something doponyali, or simply not understood, and from your "honest" Crimea all people see potential fraudsters.
But in General, read the Civil code, namely Chapter 27 - the Concept and the terms of the contract.

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Сообщение от Коза-дереза (Сообщение 3492001)
I assure You that decent people still left in this world ;)

And they all work in the governments of Kazakhstan and Sevastopol and sit in the legislative bodies of subjects of the Russian Federation. ;)

Коза-дереза 01.07.2015 14:28

[QUOTE=Кирилл Сызранский;3492091]same As this auction house can "to acquire title" Your property by contract? You or something doponyali, or simply not understood, and from your "honest" Crimea all people see potential fraudsters.
But in General, read the Civil code, namely Chapter 27 - the Concept and the terms of the contract.



And they all work in the governments of Kazakhstan and Sevastopol and sit in the legislative bodies of subjects of the Russian Federation. ;)
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[B][I]This is my last post in this theme@

The ownership of immodest goes under the contract. And the owner, as you know, owns, uses and disposes of imushestva. Sale price the gallery is not specified in the contract. Is fixed solely by the amount paid to the owner of the work. Further, in the case of the implementation of the auction, 85% is given to the customer and a 15% auction house or sell is executed post-auction bids. And the amount of payment to the client, note, is fixed by the contract. The choice depends on the selling price and is called "double accounting". I'll note, this is only my assumptions :)

No. Not all decent people working in the governments of Kazakhstan and Sevastopol and sit in the legislative bodies of subjects of the Russian Federation. Some of them sit and work on the forums :) But for politics on this forum banning. Don't want to deprive You of the joy of life. I like you ;) and besides, this is Your last post in this thread.
And therefore, Mr. Administrator, please close. Their brains enough to understand the schemes. All well-known auction house, sleep tight. Draining is cancelled :D

uriart 01.07.2015 15:22

Koza Dereza, you are a literate person!
Do not deal with crooks.


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