Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/index.php)
-   Auctions (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=206)
-   -   Brodsky v. Nesterova (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=28566)

Кирилл Сызранский 19.05.2009 11:56

Brodsky v. Nesterova
 
Вложений: 3
I read this passage.
Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 392706)
And what exactly "a class"? (Shown to the M. Nesterova average)
Such work Nesterova often sold at auctions .. it is not considered a rarity .. Investment Potential average.

Want to reply to Nesterov.
Now the base Artprice 42 paintings and 13 graphic objects M. Nesterova. Sales of the last such (giving only the high, 08-year and only the picture):
1. 25/11/2008
"St. Barbara", Sotheby, s, London.
USD 76,398
2. 21/11/2008
"At Departure" /"away", BR, CPH
USD 193,200
3. 13/03/2008
"A girl in white dress", Stockholm
USD 106,795
But I will bring more data on one picture.
Vision lad Bartholomew "(optional) Sold April 17, 2007 at Sotheby, s NY for USD 3 800 000.

Next on I. J. Brodsky.
Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 392706)
All right thing: a very rare picture of a clear attribution of the museum director Brodsky.

Yes, his pictures in the base Artprice not a lot-20 paintings and 9 pc. graphics.
Sales (only pictures) are: from USD 282 to USD 86,240.
Many are not sold.
A recent large sales of paintings Brodsky were:
1. April 21, 2007
"Portrait of the artist's wife", Van Ham Kunstauktionen, Cologne /Köln (Lot 1933),
EUR 16.000 /USD 21.778 (with Estimé at 34 tons euro, by the way).
2. March 15, 2007
"View of the city from the river at night", Stockholms Auktionsverk,
USD 42.660.

I draw this conclusion:
Painting MV Nesterova "Peresvet and Oslabya"
1. high;
2. picture of a level rarely sold at auction;
W. investment potential is great.


And it did with this picture can not compare the picture of Joseph Brodsky.
Look it up yourself and compare.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...mp;postcount=4
:):):)
And the last.
Displaying both say top lots.
One painting MV Nesterova and two I. Brodsky.
: D: D: D

SAH 19.05.2009 12:12

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392996)
I draw this conclusion:
Painting MV Nesterov "Peresvet and Oslabya"
1. high.
2. picture of a level rarely sold at auction.
W. investment potential is great.

And it did with this picture can not compare the picture of Brodsky.

Thank objectively;)

Евгений 30.06.2009 12:54

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392996)
I draw this conclusion:
Painting MV Nesterov "Peresvet and Oslabya"
1. high;
2. picture of a level rarely sold at auction;
W. investment potential is great.
And it did with this picture can not compare the picture of Brodsky.

Painting by MV Nesterov "Peresvet and Oslabya" at the auction are not sold.
-------------------------------------------------- -----------------------
Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392996)
And it did with this picture can not compare the picture of Brodsky.

LOT 13
PROPERTY FROM A PRIVATE COLLECTION, ITALY
ISAAK IZRAILEVICH BRODSKY
1883 - 1939
NANNY WITH CHILDREN
300,000-500,000 GBP
Lot Sold. Hammer Price with Buyer's Premium: 937,250 GBP (1,500,000 USD).
Good painting is always a price ....
------------------------------------------------

Кирилл Сызранский 30.06.2009 12:56

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392996)
I draw this conclusion:
Painting MV Nesterov "Peresvet and Oslabya"
1. high;
2. picture of a level rarely sold at auction;
W. investment potential is great.

And now I agree with every word.

[color="# 666686"]Added after 1 minute[/color]
Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 449916)
A good painting is always a price ....

  About the price of something from the Internet uznate, the same painting and see ...

Евгений 30.06.2009 13:00

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 449926)
And now I agree with every word.

Nesterov, mid-level picture of the auction .. it showed.
----------------------------------------
  A good, rare paintings IIBrodsky always in price ....

Кирилл Сызранский 30.06.2009 13:04

Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 449956)
Nesterov average picture .. auction is shown.

Expose themselves to ridicule, your right ... : D

[color="# 666686"]Added a 53 seconds[/color]
Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 449956)
A good, rare paintings IIBrodsky always in price ....

... and collection, forgot to add. :)

SergeiSK 30.06.2009 13:07

Of these three points:
Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392996)
Painting MV Nesterova "Peresvet and Oslabya"
1. high;
2. picture of a level rarely sold at auction;
W. investment potential is great.

with the first two badly, no one disputes - painting the normal (not high) level and rarely at auction, all right. But here is something potential buyers did not agree with the third paragraph and have not felt in this picture of the investment potential, for the estimate was quite large.

Vladimir 30.06.2009 13:51

For me, this story (why was not sold Nesterov) has remained a mystery. Maybe someone knows what? At the pre-auction show in Moscow, she looked very confident. Especially on the general background. Revaluation? Maybe. Although by the standards of Nesterov's not so high was evaluated. In general, the stars do not come together. Not see any other explanation.

Кирилл Сызранский 30.06.2009 13:59

Цитата:

Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 450016)
In general, the stars do not come together. "

Another get together ...

SergeiSK 30.06.2009 16:07

Цитата:

Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 450016)
While the standards of Nesterov's not so high was evaluated. In general, the stars do not come together. Not see any other explanation.

I personally think that by today's estimate was high, yet almost a million dollars on top. And perhaps now, at such paintings in the Russian style and spirit, not fashion. After a year or two, the demand for such products may well return, but not now ... Plus to buy now, more and more collectors, not investors, and from this point of view Nesterov was not attractive.
And. In this particular case, and the auction picture Brodsky looked much better than this Nesterov. She is better. Because, and has sold almost two times higher than the upper estimate. Let this exception to the rule, Nesterov I like Brodsky, but still we must admit that the Brodsky better.


Часовой пояс GMT +3, время: 18:57.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Перевод: zCarot