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Вильгельмина 04.02.2015 16:40

Please help us to evaluate, please.
 
Dear experts!
The theme is not mine, therefore I humbly beg you to help with the assessment of the subject.
In the fifties, this item was purchased at a European auction, was kept in the family, now I want to determine the price (will save whether selling things "father of Russian democracy", or should not squander accumulated not by me)?
So descriptive. Cuff links. Gold, red enamel, silver lining, diamonds. Carton with inner side has an inscription F. A. Lore, Kuznetsk bridge No. 4, Moscow.Mark 56 and FS ("but" , if not "C") "mirror". Cannot be determined with any assay master, nor with the price of the product. I would like to hear the opinion of professionals, and not to draw information from questionable sources. Thank you in advance!

U_Z 04.02.2015 20:50

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Сообщение от Вильгельмина (Сообщение 3373881)
In the fifties, this item was purchased at a European auction, was kept in the family, now I want to determine the price (will save whether selling things "father of Russian democracy", or should not squander accumulated not by me)?

Not true. Remake and the box in the PM.

[I]PS: Cufflinks - the second half of the XX century with fake stamps. Box - the second half of the XX veka@

Вильгельмина 04.02.2015 20:52

did not understand, sorry...what does "PM"?

Вильгельмина 04.02.2015 20:55

this thing was in the family, in contrast to those that I usually sell, buy somewhere else. The thing I remember from my childhood. Because of comments made by schA" I ask you not to post. This past.

U_Z 04.02.2015 21:07

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Сообщение от Вильгельмина (Сообщение 3374381)
't understand, sorry...what does "PM"?

including.

Added after 1 minutes
[QUOTE="Вильгельмина;3374411"]Because of comments made by schA" I ask you not to post. It MIMO@

Yes-Yes-Yes!, I'm just jealous:D

Гриф 04.02.2015 22:56

[QUOTE=Вильгельмина;3374411]this thing was in the family, in contrast to those that I usually sell, buy somewhere else. The thing I remember from my childhood. Because of comments made by schA" I ask you not to post. It MIMO@

Probably made in the 50-ies.
Or in the 30's...

In short, leave as a memory.

redbor 04.02.2015 23:13

IMHO. the box is quite adequate: Kuznetsky bridge No. 4,
in the same house and shop Faberge. :)

And cufflinks, their shape and the type zipper correspond to the end of the 19th century.
Surprised by the heraldic Imperial eagle on these cufflinks :rolleyes:
Or is it the coat of Arms of the Kingdom of Poland? The centre is badly visible :cool:

Mark, apparently erased a little PHO - Fedor Ovchinnikov, factory-owner of gold and silver jewelry.
Well or it is inverted mark "SF" Sergei Fedorov, but he seems to have done a silver bowl, and gold did not.
It is actually strange, firm Fyodor Laurie did a great brooches, cufflinks, etc.
Why are they in my box of someone else's product to sell?

What city brand? There the rider or the head?
Without this stigma sample, no matter how legitimate :confused:
Quite possibly the European manufacturer of the first half of the 20th century, which often...

Гриф 04.02.2015 23:37

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 3374651)
there Is a rider or head?

???????????

This is what you head want to see on the product 56 breakdown times Alexandrov?
:)

About emblem... there were some problems on small items (not persist, could be wrong) could only make the number.

I don't like: small clasp. She seems to be composite and Amalka - insert/stamping.
Second. The feeling that hinge - brass.

redbor 04.02.2015 23:57

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Сообщение от Гриф (Сообщение 3374751)
This is what you head want to see on the product 56 breakdown times Alexandrov?

Any Alexandrov? Are you talking about the 19th century?
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Сообщение от Гриф (Сообщение 3374591)
Probably did it in the 50-ies.
Or 30-х...


Гриф 05.02.2015 00:15

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 3374811)
Any Alexandrov? Are you talking about the 19th century?

Yes.
Worth a try before 1898.
But it is so clumsy that you can suspect of forgery. Or imitation, as you wish.


If the subject of the 50-s, as claimed, or post-war Europe, or the Bolsheviks were prepared. They had this business... In exchange for food drive West remakes.
"Boarman to deceive is not a sin" (A. Tolstoy, "Peter 1")

PS I am not able to speak with confidence about these cufflinks. Why are "likely," "on the product with a sample of 56 times A2 and A3"...


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