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sergejnowo 29.04.2009 23:57

Prices and investments in paintings by old masters
 
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Dear forum users,
address the issue, in relation to demand, prices and investment in (a) of the old European masters and schools in Russia and Ukraine at present.
Here's a concrete example:
School of Rubens (Peter Paul Rubens 1577-1640), 123cm x 167cm, with a frame 146cm x 188cm. Conclusion guru Rubens in Germany, Professor, Dr. Muller-Hofstede (Prof.Dr. Müller-Hofstede). He confirmed the school of Rubens, calls the name of the student and believes that the faces of some characters doctored hand of the master. If to proceed from the situation that is all true and the picture presented for sale in Moscow or Kiev.
Can I ask for this picture and say sell for 50,000 euros?
But is it worth investing in this picture?

Тютчев 30.04.2009 00:22

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 354256)
Can I ask for this picture and say sell for 50,000 euros?
But is it worth investing in this picture?

    The picture is not worth the money. In painting this level of investment is not worth it.

Wladzislaw 30.04.2009 01:02

Old auctions spend a lot of trades of the old masters, you can choose. I, here, a huge pile of catalogs Dorotheum'a ...:)

Евгений 30.04.2009 06:13

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 354256)
appeal to the question in relation to demand, prices and investment in (a) of the old European masters

Interesting question, and he interesuet.No many investments in the old masters, is the highest league in the art biznese.Vse not so simple, and the move to give a response very difficult.

sergejnowo 30.04.2009 08:45

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 354286)
The picture is not worth the money. In painting this level you should not invest.

Well, in your opinion how much is this particular picture?
Give please your analysis is the level of the picture. :)

SergeiSK 30.04.2009 08:54

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 354316)
The old auctions spend a lot of trades of the old masters, you can choose. I, here, a huge pile of catalogs Dorotheum'a ...

That's it! And to me they have three or four regularly send catalogs. Excellent paintings of the old Western and Eastern European artists at affordable prices.

Meister 30.04.2009 09:28

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 354256)
Can I ask for this picture and say sell for 50,000 euros?
But is it worth investing in this picture?

In a crisis, rather big amount of work and the specific topic that kind of money to ask for it not worth it. You can insist on such price, but selling it will be very long. I would be in your place translated euros to dollars and asked for her as much, but would be willing to give up to 40.

As for investment. From this point of view to invest in the students "great" meaningless, because it is good on the market in bulk and extreme fluctuations are minimal, which confirms the long-term sales statistics. In the "old masters" appropriate to invest in first names or at least those who worked beside them, and once lit. Investments in the work of many students do not bring you any more or less a decent profit at resale, but it can help save money if you buy at the right price.

30.04.2009 10:03

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 354256)
If to proceed from the situation, that is all true

The painting was done at the beginning of last century. The purchase price, together with "a professor" to 5 thousand euro. If you change the law regulating the import of antiques in the Ukraine, will fall even lower.

Евгений 30.04.2009 10:13

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 354566)
The painting was done in the beginning of last century

I understand 1910-1930gg? Why do you think that?
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P /S for information.
sergejnowo, cost of the 17 th century paintings (medium size) is often not more than 5-10 t.u.e.

Кирилл Сызранский 30.04.2009 11:01

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 354616)
sergejnowo, Cost of paintings 17 century (medium size) is often not more than 5-10 t.u.e.

Of course, it's not a picture of Witold Kaetanovicha Byalynitsky-Birulia!


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Сообщение от molkovich (Сообщение 354656)
Sell the work of Witold Kaetanovicha Byalynitsky-Birula.
Belaya Dacha, 1947 46.7 * 59.2 c /m
Examination of the National Art Museum of Belarus
Price: 15000 $



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