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Pavel 18.04.2009 22:07

Fascist Art
 
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Met several times "saw similarities" fascist "art" with the Soviet. I hope the examples will, finally?
The second photo - as the Soviet pavilion at the exhibition in Paris, expressed the struggle against fascism. Architecturally it is expressed in the dynamics of development and progress against the static psevdovelichiya.

Konstantin 18.04.2009 23:08

This topic has already been, in the morning poroyus give the link.

Pavel 19.04.2009 10:08

Do not forget that Germany was before the war the most powerful country in the world economy. America has shown only after the war and the atomic bomb. Before the war there was a crisis. Therefore, all looked at them from below, and only opposed by the USSR.

Евгений 19.04.2009 11:41

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 330996)
before the war, Germany was the most powerful country in the world economy.

Paul you want to discuss the painting in Germany, Italy, the Soviet Union during 1925-1940 period? Or, as always an interesting topic converts into an ideological crap?
Show examples of "fascist" painting Germany, Italy to discuss ..
It will be interesting for everyone, and again to discuss the ideological postulates of the USSR sense?
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Pavel 19.04.2009 15:48

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 331096)
Paul you want to discuss the painting Germany, Italy, the Soviet Union during 1925-1940 period? Or, as always an interesting topic converts into an ideological crap?
Show examples of "fascist" painting Germany, Italy to discuss ..
It will be interesting for everyone, and again to discuss the ideological postulates of the USSR sense?
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I wrote what was going on, you should not make political equivocation, without showing or explanation.
I'm for justice and just against politicization. What does a totalitarian art? But now it's free to make portraits, but then it was to support the state and state order. If you said seems to let them show anything.

Amateur 19.04.2009 22:39

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 330996)
Do not forget that Germany was before the war the most powerful country in the world economy.

It's not quite true: the most economically developed country in the world then was still the United States. Germany in 1939, took the lead only in industries that are important for the war: the level of machine tools, chemical, electrical and electronic industry. As for the art ... Indeed, many leading German artists were persecuted on racial grounds (Max Liebermann had, however, died in 1935), and other arts, so to say "true Aryans", was declared a "degenerative" (Emil Nolde, Ernst Ludwig Kirchner, Ernst Barlach , Käthe Kollwitz, many of the impressionists so-called "school Worpswede"), and they were forbidden not only to exhibit, but even the paint and graphics. So the power of the Nazis resulted in almost complete degradation of art in Germany. In the USSR, and this was not close. Although the "official" art, and was within ideology, but the work, for example, Nyssa, Deineka, Plastova Osmyorkin still are examples of true art.

Pavel 20.04.2009 20:08

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 332046)
This is not true: the most economically developed country in the world then was still the United States. Germany in 1939, took the lead only in industries that are important for the war: the level of machine tools, chemical, electrical and electronic industry. As for the art ... Indeed, many leading German artists were persecuted on racial grounds (Max Liebermann had, however, died in 1935), and other arts, so to say "true Aryans", was declared a "degenerative" (Emil Nolde, Ernst Ludwig Kirchner, Ernst Barlach , Käthe Kollwitz, many of the impressionists so-called "school Worpswede"), and they were forbidden not only to exhibit, but even the paint and graphics. So the power of the Nazis resulted in almost complete degradation of art in Germany. In the USSR, and this was not close. Although the "official" art, and was within ideology, but the work, for example, Nyssa, Deineka, Plastova Osmyorkin still are examples of true art.

But I'm just this mean-economy. This led Western countries is that, called called then 5 column, it was mainly intellectuals. And in Germany was like this "painting"-butchery.


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