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художник Федотов 21.04.2014 22:16

What else affects the profitability horizon?
 
Of course ... the profitability of investments in works of art primarily affects the "name" artist , "quality" of work, reviewed " critics " dilated pupils " curators " and " collectors " , the political situation and other virtual sufficient definition. ..

Of course ... this fertile soil bloom different, lovely flowers ... We will not say anything about those flowers, and go straight to the soil on which they have the courage to grow ... We " sees on the very root ." ..

 Of course ... in the first place , we should pay attention to the quality of the " media ", which is written , for example, oil painting ... We are talking now about contemporary art ... if previously written pictures like many artists today do it , they did not reach safely used to us ... it is very important that there was a good canvas b ... that is: flax, unbleached , well grounded ...

In short I strongly recommend , if there is a choice , just abandon the acquisition of oil painting on :
 
1.Orgalite , cardboard, paper tablecloths ( if that's not Nico P. - remember, we 're talking about the present ) . These materials are not super - durable ... However, if hardboard , cardboard pasted well well - primed canvas , then it changes everything cool ... But this goes only focus on small formats up to 50-70 cm on ... more - hardboard , cardboard bent propeller , which is not good for the preservation of the painting ...
 
2.Poslednee deal to buy paintings for the "bad " ... Canvas canvas should not be chilled ... that is natural ... If you want a canvas painted in a different color, before his " poison " of chlorine ( bleach ), which is used to get rid of natural color when stained ... Otherwise it could turn into quite the wrong color ( as happens embarrassment at not " bleached " post- Balzac - ladies with hair on his head after applying a certain operation recoat ... <! - ~ 7 ~ -> ) ... After whitening bleach lifetime decreases sharply canvas ...

3.Esche worse when many of the " artists " paint oil on colorful , not primed matters ... Not that they are inferior in durability of flax , they painted over some crap before , were etched with chlorine ... And then we paint our " artists " they joyfully oil paint ... oil paint from that lovely " flies " in the shit - matter ... Paint is without oil , the drying process is broken ... well I will not say what will happen with the color of the "paint" and how soon it will become successful in the dust ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
 
However , I will say that after getting oil from the paint into the canvas or matter : he " burned " ( rot ) fine ... And if he was this just now bleached and dyed industrial chemicals : that life in order " media " painting is generally not long ...

Very tough expressed known artists and dealers when they are engaged in sale of contemporary paintings by obscure materials , not on properly primed canvas ... What made ​​those "masterpieces" not from a poor life, and to boast ... Especially trudge from the picturesque masterpieces on velvet ... Cool comrades ...

Of course ... of course only in hindsight us that the oldest and most successful sustainable market "small Dutch " came today, not only because of the mass collecting paintings bourgeois middle- class and well known quality of the painting ... If it were not known " Reg. control" in Holland for quality boards and canvases - did not survive those used pearls to us en masse ...

I think ... that if we want to create a full-length painting of the market , then you should enter the correct term " oil painting " ... That is, such a picture is to be created on the right canvas , correct colors, in compliance with a certain technology, etc. If ... is not met - it means we are dealing with people's artifacts or " actual" or other " creative " ... If the work of art can not live with us successfully dozen other years , not to mention the hundreds of ... art is it? ? ? ... One thing we can not demonstrate Pavlova dance live , but certainly its pictorial image should not be lost so quickly ! ... so this is the eternal charm art ! .. . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Pablo 21.04.2014 22:46

Crap.
Color painters, artists write) No difference on anything.

художник Федотов 21.04.2014 23:13

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Сообщение от Pablo; 3091471"
Paint painters, artists write ) No matter on what .

If no difference - then you painter sane investor in understanding ...

 If an artist creates complex , it is unknown how much time that mankind used dopetril ...

 But if you create a conjuncture for a quick sale or aktualschina losing its " relevance " in a moment - let them " write" on any crap any color ... It's even good ... God help ... <! - ~ 7 ~ - ->

 P.S. And I, like Dürer, say sleep well , dear comrades , art investors , my fine pearl will live 500 years without over - restoration ... I do not hack ! ...

Pablo 21.04.2014 23:20

artist Fedotov, Who is sane investor ? And is there any sane artists ? All these questions will never be a clear answer . Safety of the product depends on its " exploitation" in different climatic) conditions.
And what about " dopetril " ... Time will tell , anyway. In my opinion everything has its purpose , its meaning and its result . And what else ?

художник Федотов 21.04.2014 23:36

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Сообщение от Pablo; 3091621"
Preservation of product depends on its " exploitation" in different climatic) conditions

If painting is done on - shit stuff crappy paints and without complying with known technology creation , then it is better to throw away an honest artist ... Why deceive laymen who do not see that the pearls fall apart these days , and even earlier ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

A true artist must be sure that his pearls technologically live peacefully for hundreds of years without serious restoration ... Of course, in determining the content of painting ... If paintings melt furnace or roof cover , then of course do not need to bathe so much technology writing works of art .. . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 21.04.2014 23:46

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Сообщение от Pablo (Сообщение 3091621)
Who is sane investor?
And is there any sane artists?

Sane investor - Valentine Ryabov, and sane artist, respectively, Sergei Fedotov.

K-Maler 21.04.2014 23:46

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Сообщение от artist Fedotov ; 3091401"
worse when many of the " artists " paint oil on colorful , not primed matters ... Not that they are inferior in durability of flax , they painted over some crap before , were etched with chlorine . ..

Thank you. I want to support you . All true. But here , in the stores began selling CX colored canvases and weaving is not a classic ... This is what you criticize ?
And how about ready primed ?
From it after a while the paint flies , no clutch as too oily soils.

Pablo 22.04.2014 00:09

Whatever it was - keyword "painting is done."
Crappy stuff, crappy paint ... This is from the evil one.
There are many examples of the classics, enclosing a something similar.

NATA NOVA 22.04.2014 01:58

Iksigona on you not ... He would tell you ..

Artoil-A 22.04.2014 05:26

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 3091671)
Thank you. I want to support you . All true. But here , in the stores began selling CX colored canvases and weaving is not a classic ... This is what you criticize ?
And how about ready primed ?
From it after a while the paint flies , no clutch as too oily soils .

All games are tested before priming the canvas , even the "right" perepleteteniya , in stages : priming trial , processing and application of alum Imprimatur . Soil itself - factory primer not believe it.


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