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EvgenyKucher 25.03.2014 12:12

Sylvester Shchedrin?
 
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Hello,


is it possible to say that this vskidku not exactly Sylvester Shchedrin?


size 70 to 40 approximately.


Eugene

Игорь Гурьев 26.03.2014 20:06

Maybe he is.
But it is unlikely.

Михалыч 27.03.2014 14:25

Shchedrin's not uncommon in the market.
Was very fruitful.
If the picture in the zone dosigaemosti, not virtual, I recommend (to start) to apply to my teacher at St. Petersburg State University, which is probably the most important scholars of Shchedrin.

Дилетант 27.03.2014 17:35

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Сообщение от EvgenyKucher; 3064751"
is it possible to say that this vskidku not exactly Sylvester Shchedrin ?

Such a possibility. This - not exactly Shchedrin ... And what you find in this work from the brilliant Shchedrin ? Which (forgive me Mikhalych) - baaaaalshaya rarity on the market ! Well, if we talk about the authenticity of the work and not the masterpieces like the one (one Markoff is worth , do not mention about women with their magical proportions and costumes ... )
Yes, the artist was a prolific Shchedrin (Mikhalych : an artist can not be " fruitful ", " fruitful " m b . Work , period etc), and for his nearly 40 years created prorvischu landscapes. Current they are in the vast majority of long and densely settled in museum collections and exhibitions ... So what about the " Shchedrin 's not uncommon on the market " - a simple, clean pizzicato ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
And the view is - shall I Italian ? Take a closer look closely. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

молевич 27.03.2014 18:15

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Сообщение от dabbler (Сообщение 3066471)
Such a possibility. This - not exactly Shchedrin ... And what you find in this work from the brilliant Shchedrin ? Which (forgive me Mikhalych) - baaaaalshaya rarity on the market ! Well, if we talk about the authenticity of the work and not the masterpieces like the one (one Markoff is worth , do not mention about women with their magical proportions and costumes ... )
Yes, the artist was a prolific Shchedrin (Mikhalych : an artist can not be " fruitful ", " fruitful " m b . Work , period etc), and for his nearly 40 years created prorvischu landscapes. Current they are in the vast majority of long and densely settled in museum collections and exhibitions ... So what about the " Shchedrin 's not uncommon on the market " - a simple, clean pizzicato ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
And the view is - shall I Italian ? Take a closer look closely. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->


Absolutely all Russian artists 18 and the first half of the 19th century gives Italy, Germany, Switzerland ...
Learns that went to Europe , and the costumes and the proportion is not an indicator , any artist has performed work without much entuziazma.Vot you examples of similar work Shchedrin.

eustace 27.03.2014 19:09

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Сообщение от dabbler (Сообщение 3066471)
Yes, and view it - shall I Italian?

Waters unleavened.
For horses will not drink from the sea salt water.
<! - ~ 7 ~ -> I doubt that it's him.
Looks-signed.

Дилетант 27.03.2014 20:27

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Сообщение от Molevich (Сообщение 3066491)
Absolutely Russian artists from all 18 and the first half of the 19th century gives Italy, Germany, Switzerland ...
Learns that went to Europe , and the costumes and the proportion is not an indicator , any artist has performed work without much entuziazma.Vot you examples of similar work Shchedrin.

Gosspodi , Thy will ! Oh no there is no Italy! No smell, no sound. Cabbage with turnips - is, men in hats , not even remotely resembling Italian hats - we have horses , drink water (I do not whether the Gulf of Naples ?) - Is, and Italy - NO . ( Yes and Switzerland - are not observed. <! - ~ 7 ~ -> )
A to Holland SFShchedrin , according to reliable information , somehow has not managed to get there ... that is, and can be built, but reposed .
And to anything disturb his ashes ridiculous assumptions.

P.S. By natural shyness even embarrassed to ask: what exactly from the 18th century RUSSIAN ARTISTS "gives Switzerland" ? ( Please do not remember Rossika ) . From Ugryumova ? From Argunova ? From Losenko ? From Vishnjakova ? From Kolokol'nikova , God forbid ?

P.P.S. Perhaps there was not referring to Sylvester Shchedrin Feodosievich and uncle EVOH , Semen Fedorovich ? It was he who in Mlada summer and visited Germany , and Holland ...
Only picture presented to him and has nothing to do ...

camertus 27.03.2014 22:18

agree with those who doubt the authorship Shchedrin.
level is not it, and lower.
Look at the proportions of the figures.
And the signature is weird.
But time did it.
So - n /s of the first half of the 19th century.
I think that non-Russian.

Solovlad 27.03.2014 23:45

Good all the time.

camertus, I agree with you is a European artist.
I do not see at all in this work russkosti '.
From SW.

Михалыч 28.03.2014 00:58

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Сообщение от Solovlad (Сообщение 3066741)
I do not see at all in this work russkosti ' . With HC .

And what work Shchedrin Italian period see " russkost "?

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Сообщение от dabbler (Сообщение 3066471)
.. (Mikhalych : can not be an artist < fruitful > ; < fruitful > m b . Work , period etc) ...

For Amateur - I recommend to read to the end:
< Fruitfulness - the quality of the individual > :
http://podskazki.info/plodotvornost/

And if the artist can be productive ( fruitful ), then :
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dic_s...81%D1%82%D1%8C


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