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Eriksson 18.01.2014 17:05

Beastliness.
 
In the process of putting something on one of the leading London auction (I will not mention which of them not to " light up" source of information ) , to hear such a complaint auctioneer .

Some dealers from the former USSR is now common to return to the auction houses unsold work , declaring them fakes. BP employees are well aware that freshly baked "Conclusions " and " expertise" could simply be bought, and themselves , in fact , are fakes , but formally prove it can not and are forced to take art back.
According to common practice , such work shall be destroyed .
 
Well, if not disgusting ?

Кирилл Сызранский 18.01.2014 17:08

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2945541)
According to common practice, such work shall be destroyed.

Hopefully, the issue of destruction "fakes" this auction is suitable differentiated.

Eriksson 18.01.2014 17:37

I honestly do not know.
Question was a bit awkward ...

khmelev 18.01.2014 17:47

better to open such topics with specific data , especially that all this is an open secret . In terms of trading clearly stated the possibility of returning . Old thing back almost impossible - Odalisque exception that proves the rule.
Explicit remake possible return , but auction usually makes its own examination and in case of conflict can deal Give Till trial.
Another thing that is such a big klirent that confronts him more snaps .

Eriksson 18.01.2014 17:53

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Сообщение от khmelev (Сообщение 2945631)
better open topics with specific data,


And I have no one authorized the tear-specific data.

Perhaps for some it and "open secret", but for me personally it was an unpleasant surprise.
Ashamed of former compatriots.

khmelev 18.01.2014 18:19

more often it happens that people are hitting the auction this or that thing, and then either refuse to pay or pay in a year.

And then wonder why they are denied the right to participate in the tender.

Тихая Сапа 18.01.2014 22:36

For me, the story is also quite questionable . It w as necessary energy to go , buy, sell , do not sell. Experts buy ( especially as to return a little examination ) then drive back to row with the auction house ... Simply wait and push unsuccessful image at the same auction , with reference to the previous sale . I certainly question with sales - return rather superficially familiar , but in my opinion , such a scheme is quite unprofitable . I'm afraid the staff of the auction, frustrated claims seeking excuses to his not too careful selection of lots, can this be?

Кирилл Сызранский 18.01.2014 22:44

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa ; 2945791"
I'm afraid the staff of the auction, frustrated claims seeking excuses to his not too careful selection of lots, can this be?

In principle, of course.
But now here is the attitude of some western auction to Russian purchasers some - ah, you do so, then , and still require us to guarantee authenticity?
- Won ! commotion ! ( a ) :D>

Solovlad 19.01.2014 01:49

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2945541)
In the process of putting something on one of the leading London auction (I will not mention which of them not to " light up" source of information ) , to hear such a complaint auctioneer .

Some dealers from the former USSR is now common to return to the auction houses unsold work , declaring them fakes. BP employees are well aware that freshly baked "Conclusions " and " expertise" could simply be bought, and themselves , in fact , are fakes , but formally prove it can not and are forced to take art back.
According to common practice , such work shall be destroyed .
 
Well, if not disgusting ?

Well, yes , solid rogues these , dilertsY " - , , dileryugi " from the former USSR .
I'm not talking about the experts , with the birth of the corrupt .
But resentful and unhappy employees of BP , so white , so fluffy , and .... and ....
Well, just hristosiki ... ( Well, just , the Christ child ... )

Disingenuous , lady . Of course, good luck to you upon this AD.

Eriksson 19.01.2014 02:30

Solovlad, I will not miss.
It's time.

We are not talking about the auctioneer.
That's two.

And of course you wish a lot of creative success.
This three.


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