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tekryt 12.11.2013 17:55

Please install :: authorship and evaluate the picture
 
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Hello dear experts.
In a private collection for many years, there is an old picture.
I ask you to help identify the author and the possible cost.
The painting is signed.
Oil on canvas.
37h53 cm (1-4.pdf).

Artoil-A 12.11.2013 21:25

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Сообщение от tekryt (Сообщение 2842401)
Good afternoon experts . In a private collection for many years, there is an old picture . I ask you to help identify the author and the possible cost . The painting is signed. Oil on canvas. 37h53 cm (1 -4.pdf).


The master's hand , but not having a classical art education. Does not have the knowledge and skills to draw the figure from any angle , for example, using the method of Durer, although such a task was set .
That is not a top artist ...

Jane Doe 12.11.2013 22:03

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Сообщение от tekryt (Сообщение 2842401)
I ask you to help identify the author and the possible cost

Motif - Austrian painter Hifter (M. Hifter (1880-1920)).
On the basis of auction sales - the artist is not expensive.

tekryt 12.11.2013 23:05

Artoil-A, thanks
Jane Doe Many thanks . I oanee said that this author has used eastern European ( Moroccan ) motif that was fashionable in the 19th century.
A preliminary assessment of this work - 3000-5000 $ .
Perhaps in establishing authorship known , this price can be higher.
How can you comment .

Jane Doe 12.11.2013 23:20

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Сообщение от tekryt; 2842951 "
How can you comment .

Dear tekryt, in fact, the price of the art does not exist. A sum of money that someone is willing to pay for a certain item . The most expensive painting Hiftera was sold for $ 1,700 .
You decide what is more valuable to you - or sentimental value of 3-5 thousand. In this situation , evaluation of the painting was done by someone for reasons of craftsmanship , old age, the story depicted by an unknown artist , and compare its cost was not anything.
Now, when the author is known , those who want to buy it, will be watching the auction database implementations paintings of the author , and he, unfortunately, is not popular .
Consider yourself well .

Artoil-A 13.11.2013 00:06

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Сообщение от tekryt (Сообщение 2842951)
Artoil-A, thanks
Jane Doe Many thanks . I oanee said that this author has used eastern European ( Moroccan ) motif that was fashionable in the 19th century.
A preliminary assessment of this work - 3000-5000 $ .
Perhaps in establishing authorship known , this price can be higher.
How can you comment on it .

Need to assess how the classical pictorial education was a common requirement to the artists of the time.
On the other hand, the private ownership of the architectural techniques ( interior ) Painting from the author , not only for the extraordinary spirit of the time, but I will say higher than that of many of today's students.
I note once again that this is not a top artist .
Actually, this interior design with modern architects regarded as a man- month. That is, 2000 x 2 bucks (2 ratio of taxation) . But this exclusion of intermediaries. When intermediaries amount has doubled or quadrupled .
Accordingly 4000 is a repeat of the West today . Rather more . So that there is a match ...

tekryt 13.11.2013 00:43

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need to assess how the classical pictorial education was a common requirement to the artists of the time.
On the other hand, the private ownership of the architectural techniques ( interior ) Painting from the author , not only for the extraordinary spirit of the time, but I will say higher than that of many of today's students.
I note once again that this is not a top artist .
Actually, this interior design with modern architects regarded as a man- month. That is, 2000 x 2 bucks (2 ratio of taxation) . But this exclusion of intermediaries. When intermediaries amount has doubled or quadrupled .
Accordingly 4000 is a repeat of the West today . Rather more . So that there is a match ...

Many thanks for the work on the assessment . Previously , based on the region of origin, thought this picture XVI-XVII century. That is, the lifetime of the fortress Kizikermen .

Artoil-A 13.11.2013 06:21

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Thank you for the work on the assessment . Previously , based on the region of origin, thought this picture XVI-XVII century. That is, the lifetime of the fortress Kizikermen .

Doubt about the 16-17 century. Eastern painting then gravitated to the symbolism , and the European to the drawing techniques . Symbolism in the female figures do not.
Preservation of European painting of the time provided the technology multi-layer painting. But when it becomes the image and vivid , and contrast . The painting rather blizkotonalnaya painting .
The top model (even with errors image ) is a modern anatomical type of woman , and a very liberal attitude , which does not correspond to the East.
Rather, the picture is made in the workshops of the European end of 19 or 20 centuries.


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