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демократ-демократ 11.05.2013 13:51

Albert Bredow? Help identify
 
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Can anyone familiar with the works of Albert Bredow.

Help determine the authenticity.

Oil on canvas.
oil

78 x 110 cm

sergejnowo 11.05.2013 14:38

To me looks like.

демократ-демократ 11.05.2013 16:18

sergejnowo, thank you very much for your opinion.

John Preston 11.05.2013 16:21

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 2591981)
for me is like.


For me - too.
Decent work, Democrat Democrat!
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Дилетант 11.05.2013 20:18

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Сообщение от Democrat Democrat; 2591951"
Can anyone familiar with the works of Albert Bredow.

I am afraid that well with the work A.Bredova does not know anybody. The fact is that in the collections of Russian museums authentic samples of his easel paintings are not represented, the publication of his works in his lifetime to me at one time also been found. So at the first examination had to rely only on the indisputably authentic signature creation time (not contrary to the biography of Bredow) and the impeccable provenance of the picture.
Three of the four works Bredow, with whom I had to deal with were the winter landscapes (two of the three - landscapes with some zamkoobraznymi buildings on the background of the typical candy-pink sunset). Similar works by the nature of the composition, coloring and painting techniques - very recognizable.
Unfortunately, sea (or rather - coastal) landscapes Bredova I did not come across even once (and therefore - not compare with anything.) But the composition of the picture seems to me not just "slozhnosochinennogo" but suspiciously familiar ...
Everything else: the type and condition of pictorial material (and therefore - time of creation), the authenticity of the signature, ID-relevant methods of the author's painting style, etc, etc - can only be appreciated in person. In St. Petersburg - a belt, in Moscow - in NINE. In Ukraine - do not know.
Frankly, I do not believe that your work was painted Bredow. However - good luck!

Jane Doe 11.05.2013 21:29

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In three days it will be exactly a year when the work was exhibited and sold at auction Belgian Horta.

May 14-15, 2012.


Was described as follows:



Lot 350


Albert Breedow (1828-1899) École russe


Huile sur toile: La cabane en bord de mer.

Signée: Breedow.

(Restaurations).


Dimensions: 70 x 107 cm
   

Result: 2200 € Sale date: 15/05/2012


Comparing with other marine scenery, I find a lot in common.

Дилетант 11.05.2013 21:57

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Сообщение от Jane Doe; 2592371 "
Comparing with other marine scenery , I find a lot in common.

Well, you and the cards in your hand. <! - ~ 1 ~ -> As for me , by the muddy pictures 5 x 7 cm, so even with distorted color frankly , I do not find anything at ...
 It remains to admit that along with " expertise without glasses " at the cutting edge of science is "examination at the pictures from the internet ." Recognize - and surrender.
So: when comparing the low-quality photos made ​​with the study of landscape photography picture of an iPhone belonging rumored to brush A.Bredova ...
Hooray ! This is - nonsense ! <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

sergejnowo 11.05.2013 22:10

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Сообщение от dabbler; 2592301"
I'm afraid that well with the work A.Bredova not know anybody.

And do you want?
To the Russian school of painting he has, if at all, at best, an indirect relationship.
His work has appeared in European auctions in the peak demand for Russian art under the auspices of the (exaggerate), such as in Russia died.
Based on the geography of auctions where work has appeared on sale, they are mainly from Germany. Theme of the sea also took place:

Personally for me it's no work experience do not produce - such as the niche was in clover, only the clover was on krasimshe and technical.
Works Bredova photogenic, but in kind, in comparison with competitors at the niche, like Kaufman, faded, not interesting, with a touch of sad sack.
In Germany, the demand for them among local not for sale exposed and put under Russian.
Prices compared with a fashionable painting funny, watching goings for 1500 - 2000 Euro size papers are 100 x 140 cm in thick-framed 19th-century original.
This I mean, well, what's to assess where and why you carry?
Like, buy and on the wall ..... the price he would not grow up, especially in the near future.

Кирилл Сызранский 11.05.2013 22:12

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Сообщение от dabbler ; 2592301 "
Everything else : the type and condition of pictorial material (and therefore - time of creation) , the authenticity of the signature , ID - meaningful manner of writing the author's methods , etc, etc - can only be appreciated in person .

All fakes , perelitsovki and so on. in recent years are designed just for viewing from the monitor and the monitor as a potential "attribution". <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
And in these times , the Internet is all this - is bought and sold .

Jane Doe 11.05.2013 22:24

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Сообщение от dabbler; 2592401"
Well, you and the cards in your hand

Well, that's why, why, or for what?

First of all, my message is addressed to the author of threads will be useful for approval or denial.


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Сообщение от dabbler; 2592401"
on the muddy pictures 5 x 7 cm

We're all in the same virtual framework. No one from the monitor can not get a picture and see it under a microscope, smell, touch, twirl. So we have to see and discuss what is 5x7 or 7x8.


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Сообщение от dabbler; 2592301"
Unfortunately, sea (or rather - coastal) landscapes Bredova I did not come across even once (and therefore - not compare with anything)

Well, here, now add a few more photos of sea. But, unfortunately, is also not possible to get a virtuality.


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Сообщение от dabbler; 2592401"
It remains to admit that along with "expertise without glasses" at the cutting edge of science is "examination at the pictures from the internet." Recognize - and surrender.

I hope that this is not addressed to me.

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Сообщение от dabbler; 2592401"
So: when comparing the low-quality photos made with the study of landscape photography picture of an iPhone belonging rumored to brush A.Bredova ...
Hooray! This is - nonsense!

Photo is made "iPhone" - from the site of Christie's. There, specialists, holding the picture in his hand, put up for auction and sold it exactly as original work Bredow.



By the way, Amateur, can enlarge the image to a size larger than 5x7.


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