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olegfranc 20.04.2013 12:47

Jesus Crowned with Thorns
 
Вложений: 10
<! - ~ 1 ~ -> Good condition, 36h30sm.
Price 1000u.e.
From SW.
Oleg.
:)>

U_Z 20.04.2013 13:38

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Сообщение от olegfranc (Сообщение 2564711)
Jesus crown of thorns


What is the "crown"!
Take the trouble to properly called image <! - ~ 4 ~ ->


PS: ...
and your desire to more than 3 times higher than the reality.
In Ukraine, even cheaper ...

olegfranc 20.04.2013 14:35

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 2564731)
What is the "crown"!
Take the trouble to properly called image <! - ~ 4 ~ ->


PS: ...
and your desire to more than 3 times higher than the reality.
In Ukraine, even cheaper ...


How can I know how to call it, if you do not bother.
And good enough to write "in Ukraine" and not "on" -.
:)>

U_Z 20.04.2013 18:01

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Сообщение от olegfranc; 2564791 "
and bother to write " in Ukraine" and not "on " - .

Website - Russia . The norms of language - Russian .


B - AT ( if you specify the location , direction of travel , business scope, means of transportation) .
1. Prepositions are the same within the meaning of < ... > .
2. Prepositions are different : 1) shades of meanings: to look at the sky ( at one point ) - to look at the sky ( view cover a large surface area ) ;
2) frequency of use < ... > ;
3) professional or antiquated character of one of the phrases < ... > ;
4 ) anchored in stable rpm < ... > ;
5 ) compatibility with certain words : <... > was in the Crimea, in the suburbs, in the Smolensk region , Ukraine, the Caucasus and the Far East.

DE Rosenthal. Handbook of Russian language . Moscow, 1998 . S. 334

uriart 20.04.2013 19:08

olegfranc, personally I would prefer to do and say and write in Ukraine.

тандем 20.04.2013 20:13

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Сообщение от U_Z; 2564941"
Site - Russian. The norms of language - Russian.

 Under the rules of the Russian language to describe the location of the subject in relation to the public education is the preposition "in", and in characterizing the location of the subject in relation to the territory, is not associated with the state education advocates preposition "on".

For example: in Sakhalin, on the Volga River on Lake Ladoga, in the Kuban region, near Pskov. But: in Sweden, Germany, the U.S., Chile, in Little Russia, the British Isles, but: in Britain, the Japanese islands, however: in Japan on Ryazanschine, however: in the Ryazan principality.

In addition, the use of the forms of "Ukraine" are the Russian classics. For example: "Pushkin. "Poltava", "And carried the war to the POA." Nikolai Gogol, a classic of Russian literature of Ukrainian origin, "A Terrible Vengeance": "no order in Ukraine: the colonels and captains bite like dogs, one to another." LN Tolstoy. "War and Peace": "Bagration joins a long time (although this is the main goal of all persons in authority), because it seems to him that he is on the march endangers his army, and that it is most advantageous for him to retreat to the left and to the south, with a disturbing flank and rear of the enemy, and complementing its army in Ukraine. "AP Czechs. I.Leontevu letter: "So, I go to the POA, and you, crocodile, stay in the tundra" .......
 

At present the choice of native Russian speakers use the form "the Ukraine" is, therefore, not only a violation of the norms of Russian literary language, which requires the use of the preposition "in" in relation to an independent state, but also the unconscious (or conscious) linguistic refusal to recognize the existence of such a state in modern Ukraine
 When you say "the Ukraine" the Russians refuse to recognize such a state
Andrei Illarionov
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Сообщение от uriart; 2565001"
I personally would prefer to do and say and write in Ukraine.

Alas and individual is living in Ukraine for which statehood is their country they can obuzoy.A familiar, if they are often sent to .........

olegfranc 20.04.2013 20:25

Thank you for your support. Regards, Oleg . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 2564941)
Site - Russian . The norms of language - Russian .


B - AT ( if you specify the location , direction of travel , business scope, means of transportation) .
1. Prepositions are the same within the meaning of < ... > .
2. Prepositions are different : 1) shades of meanings: to look at the sky ( at one point ) - to look at the sky ( view cover a large surface area ) ;
2) frequency of use < ... > ;
3) professional or antiquated character of one of the phrases < ... > ;
4 ) anchored in stable rpm < ... > ;
5 ) compatibility with certain words : <... > was in the Crimea, in the suburbs, in the Smolensk region , Ukraine, the Caucasus and the Far East.

DE Rosenthal. Handbook of Russian language . Moscow, 1998 . S. 334

U_Z, why do you write it started? I did not invite you to my subject engaged in my education . Sooo ugly.

U_Z 20.04.2013 22:21

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Сообщение от tandem ; 2565031"
When you say " the Ukraine " the Russians refuse to recognize such a state
Andrei Illarionov

Tandem, the conclusion of Andrei Illarionov ( selected by you in bold) is not close to me . I think this is his personal opinion and why you refer to it I was not very clear.
I would not want to enter into a debate about the etymology of the word "Ukraine" , etc. and etc. .

PS: In my post number 2 instead of the phrase " In Ukraine, cheaper ... " please read " On the Ukrainian land is cheaper ... "

Кирилл Сызранский 20.04.2013 22:36

If the brotherly people of Ukraine is preferable and more pleasant to speak in Russian "in Ukraine", referring to their state, and then to say, I think there were not working.

Gone, I think the times " chicken is not a bird, not abroad Ukraine ".

U_Z 20.04.2013 22:37

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Сообщение от olegfranc (Сообщение 2565051)
U_Z, why do you write it started?
I did not invite you to my subject engaged in my education.
Sooo not nice.


We have a theme without invitations to "come" <! - ~ 1 ~ ->.
In a discussion with you did not plan to join.

Why write started?
See my post number 2.


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