Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/index.php)
-   Chatter (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=116)
-   -   Women in the life of geniuses (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=19926)

Мунк 01.03.2009 18:59

Women in the life of geniuses
 
Вложений: 10
In the roll with the theme of "Men of genius in his personal life, I wanted to touch close to the problem - the role of women in the life and work of geniuses. The example of "my hero" - the Norwegian artist Edvard Munch (1863-1944). All the paintings "Vries life" Munch, whom he actually became famous, have an autobiographical background. Once upon a time I wrote about his work.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t = 4125 & highlight =?????? ????
Because he - my hero, I will, to defend him from the common cliches and cliches about his personal life that will answer all questions if they arise. :):)
His first love at age 22 for a married lady Milli Tauli - a young wife's uncle over the suffering and disappointment, because he was suffering unbearably, on the one hand with jealousy, and with another - the pangs of conscience.
Вложение 151925
Mrs. Tauli - a prototype of all his female characters and the heroine of infinite depressive memories. In his diary in 1890, he wrote: «What a deep mark she left in my heart. This is because, took my first kiss and tore a delicate flower of my life. Because she lied, and once its deception tore the veil from my eyes. All that had been painted pink, turned gray and empty ». Famous paintings Madonna (conception), Vampire (Love and pain), Ash, jealousy Munch wrote on the basis of personal memories that love.
In 1898, Munch had met with the second fatal woman in his life - Mathilde Larsen, the daughter of a wealthy Norwegian vintner.
Вложение 151945
Читать дальше... 

Tully seriously expect to get married, followed him from country to country (where there were exhibitions), never left alone during the work. Munch was afraid of marriage. He wrote: "I always put the art in the first place. Often I felt and understood that the woman - is an obstacle in my way. He was afraid, as if the family did not distract him from the chief in his life - from art. And the second reason - the hereditary disease in the family. His mother and sister died of tuberculosis, he repeatedly balanced because of this disease on the verge of death, so Munch considered "a crime to marry and have children." Whirlwind romance with Larsen ended in 1902, a dramatic event. She, having failed to obtain satisfaction of their matrimonial aspirations, pretended suicide by adopting (or just pretending to be) a large dose of morphine. Ugly role in the history befell the company of friends, to play along with Tully. Munch rushed to rescue her, proposed to live together, but Tully suddenly changed, as if their own "tricks" alienated her from the goal. Unable to withstand the stress, the artist, lost in a psychotic state, pulled the trigger gun, who nervously clutched in his hand and injured his left hand. The middle finger had to be amputated. It is symbolic, tk. a finger for a wedding ring. Mutilated hand ached for another ten years. The photo seen bandage on his hand, with which the artist went about life.
Вложение 151915
Tully married three months later for the little-known artist from their company. Since that ill-fated shot, they never met. The picture «The Death of Marat» depicts this scene. All happened has hurt the delicate nervous system of the artist. This was followed six difficult years, when he tried to forget the hard work and drinking. The imaginary nature and alcohol abuse led to the development of manic-depressive psychosis. They took possession of persecution by friends, whom he called "gang Heiberg. In 1908 Munch was in hospital, but recovered in six months. While still in the clinic, it showered laurels recognition. As if remembering something, he is recognized at home in Norway, while in Germany, and began a period of glory, which lasted until the end of life. Edvard Munch never married, his children called paintings, but the theme of "artist and model" was one of the central problems in his later work. Relations with cellist Eva Mudochchi (Fross knows this lithograph) also does not end.
Вложение 151965
In 1942 died Tully Blair, nee Larsen. By the time she had divorced her second husband, she had a reputation as an eccentric and prone to abuse alcohol elderly lady. The distribution of its inheritance Munch was funny, but very valuable for the occupied Norway gift - a delicious wine from old wine warehouse of her father.

fross 01.03.2009 19:11

I still really like the portrait of Munch Mudochchi head on a platter, but I can not find a reproduction.

Жар-птица 01.03.2009 19:17

About Munch Munch
 
Munch unusual, modern, I love very much. But his "Scream", tell me, what it then found, when he wrote to her, a woman to blame?: Eek:

To many it like crazy, and I have goose bumps running all over the body, fear for the impressionable minds. And for my synuli naughty I would do "Scream" Print and be frightened when rude. :):)

By the way, he was found?

Мунк 01.03.2009 19:59

Вложений: 2
Цитата:

Сообщение от Firebird (Сообщение 244406)
Munch unusual, modern, I love very much. But his "Scream", tell me, what it then found, when he wrote to her, a woman to blame?: Eek:


To many it like crazy, and I have goose bumps running all over the body, fear for the impressionable minds. And for my synuli naughty I would do "Scream" Print and be frightened when rude. :):)

About "Cry" I can tell you in great detail, if there is interest. What kind of artistic media to create this work schizoid mood of fear. This ArtLover may itself something to bring in a picture or take away from it as they wish, considering it nezazornym. :) But generally the mood created by the artist himself - he sometimes suffers a lot of time to find a means of expression is such and such of their emotions and feelings, so it (the mood) inseparable from the work. And the task of specialists - not to bring something of their own, and guess what there is. :) Sorry for not referring to you, retreat. :)
Briefly about the background of "Scream": The plot is based on autobiographical events. In the autumn of 1891, while walking with friends on the hill near his home in Norway, Munch suffered an attack of the unconscious fear - suddenly struck him feelings of fear and despair. The surrounding nature seemed to have helped his mood. The sky above the fjord at sunset was painted in a purplish-red color. In her diary, Munch wrote: "I was walking with two friends - the sun was setting. I was seized with melancholy. Suddenly the sky became blood red. I stopped and leaned against a railing helplessly. The blood and tongues of flame shot up over the deep blue fjord and the city. Friends continued their journey, and I froze on the spot, trembling with fear, and felt terrible endless scream piercing nature. "
"Scream" much analyzed - and art historians and psychoanalysts. The original version of the work - painting "Despair" (1891) - below, but later increased Munch emotion and turned the work into a symbol of "existential fear". Thus was "The Scream". You surely have noticed that the Creek is very pronounced features of Art Nouveau.

Цитата:

Сообщение от Firebird (Сообщение 244406)
By the way, he was found?

Yes, both stolen in 2004 found work in 2006, they were damaged. This summer they put on a short time in the Munch Museum in Oslo, and they are now - in the process of restoration. Site of the Museum http://www.munch.museum.no

Жар-птица 01.03.2009 20:06

Munch, thanks for the interesting information. Yes, "Scream", is really not a simple landscape paintings. :)

LCR 01.03.2009 20:10

Цитата:

Сообщение от Firebird (Сообщение 244606)
Munch, thanks for the interesting information. Yes, "Scream", is really not a simple landscape paintings. :)

And thank God. From these "simple landscape paintings," it should already scream like Munch (Edvard, not our wonderful forumchanka):)

Артём 01.03.2009 20:15

Sorry, today struck at Velazquez.
The topic. Teacher Velazquez-Pacheco marries him, then still quite young, his daughter Juana de Miranda. It will silently accompany him all his life, and Velasquez himself never come into his head to go in search of another "eternal feminine." Juan de Miranda died in the same room as her husband, a week after his death!

Мунк 01.03.2009 20:25

Цитата:

Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 244366)
I still really like the portrait of Munch Mudochchi head on a platter, but I can not find a reproduction.

I also can not find. Lithography is called "Salome. Eva saw her was furious, because I saw it as a comparison of himself with Tullius Larsen (she knew about the tragedy of Munch), because Salome - a woman whose passion and vengeance can lead a man to death. But even the portrait of Eva "Brooch" (such a feeling-lyrical female image) Munch gave no one in the form of an imprint, and brought the stone to her hotel and put under the door of her room and left an ambiguous note: "This is the stone that fell from my soul .

LCR 01.03.2009 20:28

Вложений: 1
Цитата:

Сообщение от Munch (Сообщение 244696)
But even the portrait of Eva "Brooch" (such a feeling-lyrical female image) Munch gave no one in the form of an imprint, and brought the stone to her hotel and put under the door of her room and left an ambiguous note: "Here stone that fell from my soul ".

Our man was:):):)

[color="# 666686"]Added after 8 minutes[/color]
Цитата:

Сообщение от Artem (Сообщение 244656)
Sorry, today struck at Velazquez.
The topic. Teacher Velazquez-Pacheco marries him, then still quite young, his daughter Juana de Miranda. It will silently accompany him all his life, and Velasquez himself never come into his head to go in search of another "eternal feminine." Juan de Miranda died in the same room as her husband, a week after his death!

Unfortunately, not always work out so idyllic.
For example, in 1705 Bach walked 450 miles from Arnstadt, where he lived at that time, to Lübeck to learn about the most famous musician in Germany, Dietrich Buxtehude. After listening to Bach, he was delighted and offered him the post of organist at Lubeck. The only condition was - to marry the daughter of Buxtehude. But Bach refused and immediately utek from Lubeck:)
However, Matteson and Handel also responded to the proposal Buxtehude intermarry firm refusal.
Unfortunately we did not reach to any portrait of a daughter, so no one knows why she drew all the applicants (for the post of organist, of course) in the stampede.

This Salome you were looking for, ladies?

Мунк 01.03.2009 22:03

Вложений: 3
Цитата:

Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 244726)
You have searched for this Salome, ladies?

Yes, I meant it! Although the name "Salome", but the plot - "the head man in woman's hair. So Munch depicted symbolically feminine power over men. Long strands of hair that runs around a man, or reach the presence in his paintings that I attached earlier. Here's another topic. On average lithography - a portrait of Tully Larsen called "sin." It is true that bad? But the woman went down in history.


Часовой пояс GMT +3, время: 10:04.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Перевод: zCarot