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iosif 10.07.2008 17:03

Art should be explaining?
 
I want to ask a question forumcanam. A couple of weeks ago, talked with Russia's most renowned gallerist (Artmanezhi, Art-Moscow, Paris, Basel, etc.). In short, as they say my children, "the advanced person.
So, he believes that contemporary art can not exist apart from his explanation. Ie it should already include an explanation.
Example: an artist with German roots creates an idyllic scenery, say, Bavaria. In this case the viewer must take into account his emotions associated with a very different past of Germany. An example may be unfortunate, but hopefully the meaning is clear: what about the picture, no less important than the fact that in the picture.
I would like to hear your opinion on this matter.

Евгений 10.07.2008 17:38

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Сообщение от iosif (Сообщение 19376)
to know your opinion on this subject.

This is true, of contemporary art.

Konstantin 10.07.2008 20:43

It is useful and necessary to know anything about painting "Black Square" by Malevich. Otherwise, neither the square do not understand nor its cost, and (I am not afraid of the word) and artistic value.
If this is the standard classical landscape - what to know what was around? And preceded his writing?

fross 10.07.2008 20:56

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 19436)
It is useful and necessary to know something about painting "Black Square" by Malevich. Otherwise, neither the square do not understand nor its cost, and (I am not afraid of the word) and artistic value.
If this is the standard classical landscape - what to know what was around? And preceded his writing?

Your question is anecdote:
"Scientists have finally identified what is depicted in the painting" Black Square "by Malevich - oil!":)

Glasha 10.07.2008 21:26

And another: "detectives found the stolen six months ago now" Abstraction. Portrait of a Woman ", though the woman on her way and did not find ..."

K-Maler 19.07.2009 22:04

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Сообщение от iosif (Сообщение 19376)
So, he believes that contemporary art can not exist apart from his explanation. Ie it should already include an explanation.

Well, the exhibition "flies" (Kabakov), for example, even for advanced ... Two or three rooms (large). On each wall of two or three sheets of paper (size-4). On each sheet of two or three flies. Near texts, but not art, but ... flies, from their "person" ... Four months later, after visiting the exhibition I found an article which said that the artist wanted to make it clear that people already have some not so, leaving only the flies, as something decent ... (more "philosophical" was, of course, described) ...

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 19436)
is useful and necessary to know something about painting "Black Square" by Malevich. Otherwise, neither the square do not understand nor its cost, and (I am not afraid of the word) and artistic value.
If this is the standard classical landscape - what to know what was around? And preceded his writing?

In some cases, need. For example, the plot of the road. In the classical landscape of this story often gives meaning to life's journey, and what happens on the road, too, has an expanded meaning ... And does it matter enrichment culture in general interpretations, what is called hermeneutics, ie themselves become part of the cultural interpretation of the process.

Vladimir 19.07.2009 22:51

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Сообщение от iosif (Сообщение 19376)
So, he believes that contemporary art can not exist apart from his explanation. Ie it should already include an explanation.

Correct. I do not have this fear. Naobrot, immersed in the idea, to delve into this explanation, to seek an interpretation - it is a separate pleasure. Then predstavtte, as it will be interesting to hear the explanation of your guests. And the landscape that? Beauty, well, strength. A tell-what? What a legend, what is the intrigue?

Posav 19.07.2009 23:10

In the fine arts should be thought to convey the image. If the product is accompanied by an explanation, it is adjacent to or border of the arts. For example, theater or painting skultura = happenings or installation. In the case of the flies and the original descriptions rather symbiosis with the literature. This is my vision. Maybe me and corrected.

gans 19.07.2009 23:47

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Сообщение от iosif (Сообщение 19376)
So, he believes that contemporary art can not exist apart from his explanation. Ie it should already include an explanation.

Art should influence a person primarily at the level of feelings. There-fore, without an explanation can not exist above all art, which at this very level powerless.
I think, here as elsewhere in the need to seek some harmony, and a reasonable proportion.:)

spigo 19.07.2009 23:51

gans, agrees very well! Analysis-chief enemy of true art.


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