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Rid_Streenger 05.04.2013 12:51

Portrait of a castle wall for identification
 
Вложений: 6
The picture in the frame.

Prehistory - imported from Germany in the 45m.

Withdrawn from the wall, which then lock :)>

state can be seen from the photos.

Questions:

Assume the date of writing, the country technique.

Likelihood of restoration and sales.

sergejnowo 05.04.2013 13:43

Rid_Streenger, optical , frame 30's of last century.
The work itself is probably the last quarter of the 19th century.
As n /x work is not commercial, in Germany, after the restoration and a beautiful selection of frames, you can ask 200 - 600 euros.
Who can and will buy.
By the way, saying " the castle " in Germany is for a negative flavor.
For many reasons, the castles in the 19- 20th centuries, expensive and quality of painting is not hanging .

Rid_Streenger 05.04.2013 13:45

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 2540471)
Rid_Streenger

By the way, saying "the castle" in Germany is for a negative flavor.

For many reasons, the castles in the 19-20th centuries, expensive and quality of painting is not hanging.


Well, I sense a lie ..
I received a picture of prehistory and showed.

Wladzislaw 05.04.2013 15:08

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 2540471)
For many reasons, the castles in the 19-20th centuries, expensive and quality of painting is not hanging.


Well ... Why so generalize?
:)>

sergejnowo 05.04.2013 18:03

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw; 2540651"
Why so generalize?

I'll explain, and I think that nothing new to say.
Beside the fact that the times were not so, I exaggerate, white come, rob, red come, rob, there were many other reasons.
There were so many "waves" plundering the political and military reasons, just statistically, there was nothing left.
 Those locks that are in the cities, this time turned into a museum or something like that.
They are all things written and known.
Castles in the country, more of them are out of fashion as the housing for the whole year - went to the status of summer residences.
Antiques are usually removed.
Locks had not drowned, some still do not heat, which is not ideal for painting and furniture.
From the mid 19th century, the beginning of industrialization in Europe, became more bucks from the capitalists, owners of factories, newspapers, steamships, tenants locks with blue krovushki poorer and stopped ordering their portraits in fashionable and expensive. Been to the sale of assets such locks, - painting level "splint."
In general, there are a lot of things ....
Therefore, the concept of "the castle" in Germany is similar in meaning to Russian: inherited from her great-grandmother, 100 years in the family, at one point hung :D>

Борис Кон 05.04.2013 18:26

"The picture of the castle" - it sounds like a classic: "Ten chairs from the palace!"

Unfair but pathetic.

Jane Doe 05.04.2013 18:28

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Сообщение от sergejnowo; 2540991"
There were so many "waves" plundering the political and military reasons , just statistically, there was nothing left .

This portrait , as I understand it , is precisely the subject razdobytym during another robbery , which shared with us by topic.
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Сообщение от Rid_Streenger; 2540341 ​​"
imported from Germany in the 45m.
Withdrawn from the wall of the castle which is

Anyway, after ( another robbery) , the castle was gone , and this ( portrait) :o>

Wladzislaw 06.04.2013 00:53

sergejnowo,


thank you for your detailed response.
In general, all methodologically correct.
But the details :)> I disagree with you.
Most decent painting has always been concentrated in the hands of the nobility, in Germany, in Russia, in Belarus.

Владимир Владимирович 06.04.2013 14:42

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Сообщение от Jane Doe (Сообщение 2541091)
in the castle and it was not

Any big house, in which lived the German official in the suburbs, a young officer sovetskomu could seem a little castle.
Or grandchildren preukrasili story, something to sell more expensive.
:)>

раскатов 06.04.2013 14:54

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Сообщение от Rid_Streenger (Сообщение 2540341)

Questions:

Assume the date of writing, the country technique.

Likelihood of restoration and sales.

Look for signature.
And you have the back of the photo.

Interesting character.
Most likely it is France or Holland.


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