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AlexSpb 07.03.2013 21:51

Pair of vases. Meissen.
 
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Try to create a peace topic. :)>
There is a pair of vases. Height 34.5sm, drawing from both sides.
I would like to know the time of creation and the approximate price.
I'm on the porcelain part - very weak ..., however, asked not to sound "modern" and in particular "Chinese" - version.
Picture quality is very, it seems the people are vases called "coral" in color pattern.
Barely visible in the test squiggle next to the sword does not resemble the markings that appear, seems to be in the forties ...
In addition there is indirect evidence of the receipt with the famous auction of about half a century ago, where the vases were sold specifically as Meissen.

I have in mind is quite modest minimum price for which would be willing to part with vases and if the views of more literate than I am of people will not take her in an apparent contradiction, I voiced it with pleasure!

For musk ox I have no questions and simply offers a welcome little "guessing game" with respect to its place of manufacture.
Mystery, I think, is not a very daunting thing and not too expensive, yet seems to me insane rarity!
I hope that even just experience watching photos, get pleasure from viewing!

K-Maler 07.03.2013 22:36

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Сообщение от AlexSpb (Сообщение 2491641)
I will try to create a peaceful theme


The vase painted sort of Masonic symbols.

A musk ox, probably America.

Кирилл Сызранский 07.03.2013 22:44

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For the musk ox

More like bison or American buffalo - Buffalo.

AlexSpb 07.03.2013 22:47

Ox, and perhaps mundane bison (I'm weak in this terminology) - one of the most famous European companies.
In any case, no less fertile than the same Meissen!

bykinist 07.03.2013 22:57

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Сообщение от AlexSpb (Сообщение 2491701)
ox, and perhaps mundane bison (I'm weak in this terminology) - one of the most famous European companies.
In any case, no less fertile than the same Meissen!


J.W.
Beswick?

Solovlad 07.03.2013 23:26

All the good times.
SW.
AlexSpb, I apologize, but I have, if you're interested, somewhat different version.
There are serious doubts about the accessories provided by you to the products vases Meissen manufactory.
From SW.

AlexSpb 07.03.2013 23:29

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Сообщение от bykinist (Сообщение 2491721)
J.W.
Beswick?


Well, I'm even a word that never met - had to type in the search!


In my case, the core areas, of course - porcelain, but porcelain figurines (not this size, of course), there are also quite common!

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Сообщение от Solovlad (Сообщение 2491751)
All the good times. SW. AlexSpb, I apologize , but I have , if you're interested , somewhat different version. There are serious doubts about the accessories provided by you to the products vases Meissen manufactory. From SW .

Any opinion I wonder if it is made ​​, and cultural arguments.
I think in this case, if it is not Meissen , we can only speak of the old simulation. But this is not too hard to believe , because even in this case there must be the original prototype , with whom he will have to compare my pair to draw any conclusions!

And yet, after this here :
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Сообщение от Solovlad (Сообщение 2487361)
Dear AlexSpb, and it (the picture ), you really need ? :confused:>

in any sensible information from you is I believe with difficulty.
I will be very glad to be wrong !

uriart 08.03.2013 00:08

AlexSpb, do not amuse themselves with the hope that you have a Meissen porcelain!

Chinese shit these vases!

1000%!!

AlexSpb 08.03.2013 10:34

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 2491791)
AlexSpb, do not amuse themselves with the hope that you have a Meissen porcelain!
Chinese shit these vases!
1000%!!!!

Yes, but ... So much for the festive day began - like an ax on the head! :)>
Well, then, are to blame. We had to explain to dull in the original message that the request - not to sound the "Chinese" version means it is - do not write that the vases are Chinese bullshit!

And yet, that is who I have to? That way, perhaps, the "vykladyvateli bullshit", having mastered simple know-how in the form of an introductory phrase, will be insured by the prospects of exposure!

So, well done uriart - did not lead and slashed plain truth!
Of course, a little wary confidence in photography - as much
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1000%!!!!
but then these people and professionals, the secrets of their thinking is unknown to mere mortals!
And who, if not Little Russian maitre to be an expert in the field of Chinese shit! <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
Also, write it, say - 98%- I would start to fuss now, to spread quality photos taken in daylight, etc., but the figure of 1000%I am quite calm!
Although, of course, for complete reliability few extra zeroes would not be useless ...

And what about the old Kvitka with the auction?
Something I just confused :confused:>

I also vaguely heard about the "Chinese goods" that he usually made in large numbers, but I do not remember with something to sort I have met so far ...

Obviously (for some unknown reason I only), all samples of such analogues exist only on the territory of Ukraine and now guru uriart, so as soon found an opportunity to visit this topic and write in it, will make another couple of minutes of your precious time and these swatches are posted!
Waiting, sir.

uriart 08.03.2013 10:53

AlexSpb, you have a lot of writing.
These vases are not worth your precious time!
Shit - it is in Africa bullshit!
And Malorosii bullshit!
And where else - all the same shit !
Swatches I will not show you , so do not archive them .
And since you live in St. Petersburg ?
My dear , go ka you to the Hermitage.
Everything you say, even more than I said .


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