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Alex_SG 25-02-2013 00:23

Decor plate, unusual story, brand JM, attribution and cost?
 
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Very interesting view of the participants on this plate , the origin of the plot , well, authenticity and value?
Because the issues are still more questions than answers. Material presumably white iron , diameter 27 cm , weight about 1.2 kg , the stigma JM 5125.
As for my reasons, it seems to work Johann Maresch, who was born July 11, 1821 . Ceramics production since 1841 , from about 1863 , they moved to the famous mark JM. That's where the questions begin , it is produced mainly pottery and plates including a second story on a plate does not fit in with the Austro- Hungarian Empire , clearly Orthodox.

Игорь Гурьев 25-02-2013 02:22

Story - probably the baptism of Vladimir of Russia.

Ie
could be the order of Raska.

Say, in 1888.


This is so, the first thing that comes to mind ...

Alex_SG 25-02-2013 18:26

Yes, most likely confined to the Baptism of Russia , except that the plot was too reminiscent of the picture of Plato Kalashnikov Borispolets "Preaching of St. Andrew ," in 1847 . (located in St. Andrew's Church in Kiev) , but with significant differences, perhaps there was another picture on this topic. Inclined to believe that the story on the plate is preaching at St. Andrew Kiev hills cross - stick in the hand is exactly the one shown in ( Planting the cross on the site of the city's founding . Thumbnail Radzivilovskoy Chronicle. Cohn . XV c.) . How do you this version?

Игорь Гурьев 26-02-2013 05:34

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Originally Posted by Alex_SG (Post 2477911)
How do you this version?

Look, what pictures you know.

Maybe so.


Indeed, at the baptism does not seem like the Dnieper to be seen, not seen water move.


What you immediately do not say?

Alex_SG 26-02-2013 10:14

Thanks for kompliman :)>, but really nothing special. Because after all, I, too, once, when she saw the thought baptism of Russia , and of searching for information in parallel . Initially followed the path of the stigma , then the plot. Well, I found and described . I and in the first message will try to fully reflect what he knew at the time. If you withhold information , then it will be a forum, people share what they know thus increasing their own knowledge ( for peaceful purposes).

Antony 26-02-2013 17:14

More likely, though, that the preaching of Cyril and Methodius in Moravia.
Brothers depicted with eight-pointed cross.
Moravia was part of the Austro-Wenger.
It fits.

Кирилл Сызранский 26-02-2013 17:20

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Originally Posted by Antony (Post 2479331)
Moravia was part of the Austro-Wenger.
It fits.

In addition, it is true that when Cyril and Methodius preached in Moravia (IX century), no Austro-Hungary was not.
:)>

Antony 26-02-2013 17:32

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzran (Post 2479371)
Also, it is true that when Cyril and Methodius preached in Moravia (IX century), no Austro-Hungary was not.
:)>


Yeah, and the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea :)>.
Very profound remark.

Кирилл Сызранский 26-02-2013 17:39

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Originally Posted by Antony (Post 2479431)
Yeah, and the Volga flows into the Caspian Sea :)>.
Very profound observation.

No, that " profound remark ":

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antony (Post 2479331)
Moravia was part of the Austro-Wenger.


Antony 26-02-2013 18:10

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzran (Post 2479441)
No, that " profound remark ":


I sincerely sympathize with you ...


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