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20.02.2009 17:17

Starotserkovnaya book
 
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Ladies and gentlemen! Help to clarify the time of publication. ChASOVNIK.Format band set 210 x 140 mm.Numeratsiya-on listam.Mezhdu sheets on the front side of the first sheet of notebook of which of the book, in the center under nabornrnoy strip imprinted signatury.Ornamentizdaniya back to the handwritten and reproduced in the book - Technology woodcuts, plates were manufactured by carving on wooden boards.

Евгений 20.02.2009 18:35

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Мимопроходил 26.02.2009 15:01

Vyacheslav, in principle, in any regional museum specialist can for 10-15 minutes to give you full information about the publication. Book - no picture, there is less contentious issues, unknown publications, in contrast to the unknown paintings, virtually none. My Gospel in 1632 was identified in 5 minutes, and told him everything, including the approximate date of the last restoration.

You can perplex yourself and dig out enough information to distribute a catalog of books Cyrillic printing, such as grain, AS, Pozdeyevo or Afanasyeva TA

In inete can search its publication, for example, here
http://kizhi.karelia.ru/collection/c...book/about.htm

Tamila 26.02.2009 20:28

It was possible to show pictures of your starotserkovnoy one book restoration experts. And that's what they told me: (I quote verbatim)

"This book probably dates from the second half of the 19 th century, of which there are very many, because the church literature is common. The book is valuable if it has engraving or illustration. Imprint can be read on the last page of the book: the year and place of printing usually indicated with whose permission, printed book. for example "with the permission of the Metropolitan something."
Perhaps this edition and earlier, but visually cover the 19 th century.
Therefore, the value provided by your books is very small. "

27.02.2009 00:04

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Сообщение от Tamila (Сообщение 239006)
Maybe this edition and earlier, but visually cover the 19 th century.

Hardcover books home, the book is sewn from separate parts, "notebooks." Firmware sealed a twist-type braided rope passing along the zigzag spine (hence the level of the spine) and the ends tucked into oblozhku.V neo-hull-bound steps (or terraces, waves) are already doing for the beauty-"antique" t.k.tehnologiya firmware other books, it probably saw postranichnaya.Vy if modern book on the most disturbed oblozhka.Teper knige.Po all featured book Moscow anonymous publication not later than the second half of the sixteenth century. Output net.Illyustratsy and prints no ornaments except - in the "Breviary" they are not provided. Unfortunately until I found another "Breviary" of the same publication. This copy in good condition because maintained as a book and was not used in the church for its intended purpose. I will look for an analogue in the monograph Grain AS 1958 izdaniya.Zatem will refer to a recommended expert. Approximate cost of the book I know. And after the final identification can, in the event of a sale, talk reasonably about the exact price.

Мимопроходил 27.02.2009 13:31

Вложений: 4
Vyacheslav, binding may indeed be somewhat later. In my case, specialists will immediately (and the client - no;)), which was intertwined book later on all the canons of the Old Believers, that's why the effect of "as a native. That's the way my copy. More precisely, not being my ...

Сима 27.02.2009 14:54

And that, Vyacheslav, with the paper? With such impressive format, should be water. signs. Surely not? If there is, then check for Klepikova. All the same - the lower date.

27.02.2009 17:15

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Сообщение от Sima (Сообщение 239906)
And that, Vyacheslav, with the paper?

watermarking net.Eto can also serve as a basis for dating the books of the second half of the sixteenth century. The books of an earlier edition were printed on paper, often with foreign production water znakami.HIV-XV century on the "Alexandrian" and "fryazhskoy" so-called Italian, XV-XVI in the first half of the French and gollandskoy.Bumaga own production appeared in Russia in the second half of the XVI century. made by Moscow in small quantities and was without water znakov.V early 17 th century production ceased and the books were printed on Dutch paper.

Сима 27.02.2009 18:09

Vyacheslav, just noticed. you her datiruete 16 century and with the native binding. I just seemed to cover the 19 th century. Please find out when the whole truth, not be bothered to tell. Interesting.

Мимопроходил 27.02.2009 18:11

Vyacheslav, try browse page. They often Possessory inscriptions - whole sentences, the word on the page (somewhere in the fields, most likely at the bottom) - when someone who bought, etc.

In addition, there is one more barbaric way to be sure, but many use as ultima ratio. Tear off a small piece of leaf and set on fire. Paper with the alleged dating of you will smell like burnt cloth (paper made from rags), paper 19 th century - this is cellulose. Already defined.


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