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serg468 05.02.2013 21:37

Expertise in NINE them. Tretyakov.
 
I want to examine some aspects of technical and psychological attribution paintings of the first row.
Had a chance to try to get one expert on the sketch for VE Makovsky. Makovsky's signature on a sketch. And not just the signature. Name of the painting and photos for the moment is not important, because the question of the approach in general. Originally called the NINE Tretyakov became negotiate examination. I initially offered to send photos pictures to the experts decided to bring or not to bring a picture. But since I am fully confident in the authorship of the sketch, I said that I just brought. Taking a picture, I was immediately told that 50 to 50 to confirm or not confirm. Why so sure I do not understand. Oh well. Picture left on Thursday, and on Friday, I was told, fit expert Makovsky. Waited for Friday. Called at 5 pm in NINE and I was told that the authorship is not confirmed. All this leads to thinking - and really was the examination. I'm told, an expert on Makovsky, spoke Ignatova NS of Grabar, and I do feel sad. Why give the conclusion to "beer lovers" it was not interested in a large-scale work and just waved. Not from the "office" went. Maybe she did not see the picture, just thought that it is not necessary to show. Taking a picture of NINE, I was told that the expert has identified the sketch as a copy from a postcard of the early 20th century. Nonsense, drawing is very different from the final version, and I have a large collection of vintage postcards, but such an option I have not seen even once in 20 years. Then where to write? I would like to see this card, but, unfortunately, it's not an expert. What is it? Bias, if this Makovsky, a part of his can not bring. Pereperestrahovka. Incompetence. Pofigizm. Or hint that Makovsky is expensive, but it's cheap and the expertise necessary to pay for the confirmation of a large sum. Very negative residue left visiting and attribution in NINE. Can someone had something like that?

Kaffsky 05.02.2013 22:12

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Сообщение от serg468 (Сообщение 2453611)
Had a chance to try to get one expert on the sketch for VE Makovsky.
 Makovsky's signature on a sketch . And not just the signature. Name of the painting and photos for this moment are not important...

serg468, it is clear that you have pressing issues ...
But, perhaps, no problem you had not.

Provided that in your possession , the present study V.E.Makovskogo .

You decide , please, whether you need a qualified
Community Council ?
If yes , the photo picture, its name , signature (large ) of the artist
 oh really even important!

And, most of all -personally for you!

With respect to you , the Forum and Makovsky ...

uriart 06.02.2013 06:24

serg468, I personally have no complaints.

As it turned to him, offered to send photos.

I otpravil.Pouchil told that work is good and you can bring.

But I am not able to negotiate with the seller (requested a lot!) On this was it.

mihailovoh 06.02.2013 06:46

serg468,
To be sure of the authenticity of the authors of the first ryada.bez expertise ( not even expertise) vozmozhno.tem no more " to the sketch " to the famous painting .
Do not like to wear Tretyakov Grabarya.No first Spis - show with amateurs. Her opinion " expensive ." If you are afraid to publish online .

John Preston 06.02.2013 08:53

In NINE Grabar and expert composition by Russian artists are almost identical, with the exception of a few individuals.
But basically in their jurisdiction as a whole can not be doubted.
But on foreign painting their expert weak, sometimes argument bounce fetched.

Дилетант 06.02.2013 14:37

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Сообщение от John Preston; 2453971"
In NINE Grabar and expert composition by Russian artists almost identical

Enough to you - "identical" ? And nothing is identical ! :)>
G.S.Churak , L.I.Gladkova , T.L.Karpova , T.A.Ermakova , N.A.Aleksandrova , O.D.Atroschenko , I.V.Rustamova , E.M.Zhukova , N. L.Adaskina and V.S.Silaev to GRC Academician Igor Gurevich Grabar have nothing to do ...
So - the only two names :)> and yet appear in both lists. (Two , but - what! )

John Preston 06.02.2013 15:29

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Сообщение от Amateur, 2454301
Enough to you - "identical"?


And in fact in place I'm there more often met by Mrs Rybakov, Gerashchenko and Glebov ...
I'm not telling you ... unfounded

Кирилл Сызранский 06.02.2013 15:43

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 2454371)
meet Mrs. Rybakov

Since she no longer works in IE GRC Academician
Grabar.

Wladzislaw 07.02.2013 02:15

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Сообщение от mihailovoh (Сообщение 2453871)
To be sure of the authenticity of the authors of the first ryada.bez expertise (not even expertise) is not possible.


Strangely comprehensive statement.
For example, Mr. Aven is tell :)>

Дилетант 07.02.2013 11:21

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 2454371)
And in fact in place where I see most often Mrs Rybakov, Gerashchenko and Glebov ...
I'm not telling you ... unfounded

Well, of course - not unfounded.

However, neither O.S.Glebova nor Yu.V.Rybakova in GRC long do not work.
Years, I think since 2009.


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