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artcol 07.01.2013 13:00

Hammer
 
Lord, tell me about the Hammer.

I looked in there and came out with the site a little surprised - there is some kind of a life, as I understand it , laws ... Selling prices for some frightening some terrible hmm ... art, obchem ...

What is the meaning of this infinite carousel?

Advance very grateful responded.

Борис Кон 07.01.2013 13:34

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2409401)
... went to the site a little surprised - there is some kind of their own lives ...


This is a subtle world that exists in parallel with yours.

artcol 07.01.2013 13:45

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Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2409431)
This is a subtle world that exists in parallel with your.

The fact that the "parallel" - I myself understood.

Vladimir 07.01.2013 13:48

I was before the new year in their presentation and, behold, I remembered (this happened essay).


Antique segment in RuNet. How are the neighbors?
In light of the growing number of business initiatives to submit art on the internet (now people twirl in the head with innovative ideas and electronic shopping sites), they will certainly be of interest to the potential of this market and the company's statistics for a long time immersed in it. Just the other day in Moscow, the presented results of their molotok.ru - «People's auction," one of the largest auction sites in RuNet, whose shareholders are allegro group and mail.ru. In short, the occasion turned up to teach you the statistics of the neighbors and their current grades.
To start curious estimate e-commerce market in Russia in general. According molotok.ru turnover of physical goods on the Russian Internet in 2012 will be about 342 billion rubles. against 244 billion a year earlier. Annual growth of 40%with serious, but still it is still less than 2%of the casino. In 2012, the country had about 85,000 online stores, and for a year the number had risen to 20%. Audience LESBIAN up in 2012 close to the mark in the 58 million (an increase of 15%). This is not the end, but it is believed that in the future no explosive growth will be gone.
Now, about the particulars - that Molotok.ru tells about himself. Average attendance area is now 277 000 visitors a day (which is comparable with the population of Kostroma). The day is more than 12 thousand transactions (on this indicator are in second place after ozon.ru). 86%of transactions occur between different regions. Over 2012 sold about 4.2 million lots totaling 2.8 billion rubles. 28%of the sales - is electronics. A (note) 60%of sales are for antiques and collectibles. Specifically annual statistics is as follows: Numismatics - 541 million rubles (33 thousand customers per month), DPI - 242 million rubles. (31 thousand customers per month), philately and Jubilee - 176 million rubles., Militaria - 172 million rub., porcelain, glass, 110 million rubles., phaleristics - 94 million rubles. Bonistics - 87 mln., silver and jewelry 82 million rubles., icons - 79 mln., well, different - 112 million rubles. That is, in practice, the lion's share of turnover antique segment to "hammer" make coins. Surprised at the question, "Why has no data on the painting?" Came the reply - sales on the materialunastolko insignificant that these statistics have pushed either in DPI, or in a different - not exactly remember.
One of the main brakes on trading paint on the Internet - the problem of counterfeits. No panacea in the Hammer. Disputes are often individually and sellers agree to a refund. New except that now for the consideration of conflicts Hammer began to resort to the expertise of its partner - the State Historical Museum.

Кирилл Сызранский 07.01.2013 13:51

Lord, tell me about the Hammer
 
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Everything has been thought out to us, you just do not know. And do not come up with " gag ".

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2331021"
About the " gag ": I was at the Hammer and konferetsii problem selling pictures there were discussed in detail.

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Сообщение от artcol; 2331101"
I once spent time monitoring of hammers and painting on this topic for themselves shut. No painting - there is no problem

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artcol 07.01.2013 13:59

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 2409461)
To the surprise of the question, " Why has no data on the painting? " Was the answer - on sale this materialunastolko insignificant that these statistics have pushed either in DPI , or in a different - not exactly remember.

Vladimir , thank you, removes many questions. It is also interesting to know , what does DPI to all Arts on the market ....

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2409481)
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 :D>

I'm not interested in painting , in this case (I do not know where it will take on a hammer) , and the medium itself : which rages, some terrible numbers on price tags - that's here first.

Here are headlines from the Hammer :
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AP 1895-1942 venerable museum work !!!
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Eugene Garin 1922-1994 Museum level !!!
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M.E.Tkachev 1912-2002 with a certificate
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NIGHT SKETCH 1955 GREAT RATING !
In today's more interesting, less garbage .

Here, for example , a certain Gurgani .
Oil on canvas, 80x80 cm , framed .

175 TR Even expensive, I think? Or maybe not?

Кирилл Сызранский 07.01.2013 14:24

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Сообщение от Vladimir; 2409461 "
28 %of the sales - it's electronics. A ( note ) 60 %of sales are for antiques and collectibles .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2330921"
By the way , most of the sellers of antiques for a hammer from the regions , of course.

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It is also interesting to know , what does DPI to Arts on the whole market ....

I remember how artcol giggling here in the forum , I read that the DPI enables antique dealers "interrupted" in periods of stagnation in the market of art , "jumping " on time on a particular topic in the " application ". :D>

artcol 07.01.2013 14:36

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2409511)
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I remember how artcol giggling here in the forum , I read that the DPI enables antique dealers "interrupted" in periods of stagnation in the market of art , "jumping " on time on a particular topic in the " application ". :D>

1) I do not care at all DPI
2) subject to the issue appeared only in the context of the situation with the painting on the Hammers
3) " chuckled " I on another occasion.

Кирилл Сызранский 07.01.2013 14:41

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2409521)
I do not care at all DPI


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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2409491)
what does DPI to Arts on the whole market ....

Understood, realized ...
:)>

artcol 07.01.2013 14:47

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2409531)
I understand , understand ... :)>

All right.
As I understand it , the ratio of sales to ISO PDI to a hammer tends to infinity. Take one for the schematic (PPE ) to 100 (DPI ).

Now consider that in general the market of art and antiques for others. Such as 100 (ISO) to 20 (DPI ).

Then it becomes more clear, in particular, such dialogue:

- What have you there ? ..
- Painting .
- ( Squinting at a bad photo ) Sea ?
- Sea.
- Who is the author?
- Aivazovsky.
- How much ?
- One million .
- What?
- Euro.

Hence the question about the relationship to ISO PDI throughout the market .


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