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Евгений 09.07.2008 04:27

Mark Masarsky: in Russia there is a need for capitalization of art as a resource "
 
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The philosopher and prominent businessman Mark Masarsky believes that in Russia there is a need for capitalization of art as a resource "
When we talk about beauty, which will save the world, we unconsciously have in mind visualized aspects of beauty. In other words, the main savior of the world can become a fine art. It is unfortunate that this kind of reasoning is not yet convincing to the people on whom depends the life of our country. About beauty, by the way, one can speak in other terms - the economic and social feasibility, investment attractiveness, eksportoprigodnosti, in terms of new jobs and employment.
Effectively if we "work" with beauty, if our arguments in such terms? If a "take it on the shaft, then about fifteen percent of the world of art - our origin. At the same time in the back of trade we utilized only a few hundredths or even thousandths of a percent. Why?
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Do objects of fine art will never be the international market, if there is no market "home", where the artist - the hero in his homeland in the full sense of the word. In this case, not only in income levels in Russia, but also in public policy in relation to art. Bspomnim France, gave rise to the Impressionists and Picasso's largely thanks to public policy.
Our art can not be called provincial, but we varimsya in its own juice, and on the margins of social processes in their country. Russia's art market has not capitalized, nor what the dynamics of its development until there can be no question. As a result, Russian art - unclaimed investment resource.
Addition to the new state approach to the art market are critically important efforts to build its infrastructure. Art - goods, calculated on the individual consumer. Each piece is unique, and to exchange pictures or sculptures to trade, no one will: it is quoted only the standard goods - grain, coal, timber. In other words, wholesale art excluded. Therefore it is necessary to know not just how and where to buy the item, but also its origin and, of course, how profitable it can be subsequently implemented. For all this information must be clearly-established infrastructure, which in Russia is not yet established.
A third very important issue - investors or, more widely, consumers of art. The fact that a person first seeks to satisfy the basic necessities of life, then - social and only then remembers the aesthetic. On the one hand, a circle with a capital art connoisseurs in our country is extremely narrow. On the other - to believe that by creating a private collection, you can protect yourself against inflation in Russia, at least, naive.
For immediate prospects for art market, I am cautiously optimistic. Maybe we'll get to hundredths, tenths, perhaps even one percent of world trade. Now contributes to the development of the situation, firstly, inflation - people tend to save money by buying art. Secondly, many sell the pictures to decide, for example, the problem of the second or third homes. In addition, improved security system. Important role played by the openness of society. But everything is progressing slowly, if the system is fueled by investment. We are still far from Sotheby's and Christie's, to the saturated specific market institutions, but the first steps are made. We need to create some kind of a tight market environment, the range of people - in a club, salon version of the Internet. Such an atmosphere is produced through communication. "ArtChronika", it seems to me - one way to solve all these problems.
Jean-Paul Sartre observed: "To say that culture is imperishable, it became a sign of good taste. And she really imperishable, while connoisseurs of at least one - the creator." And I would add: the creators have a lot, that's a connoisseur of bad. That is why it is now important to establish a system of art, that such judges have appeared.

Admin 09.07.2008 06:24

Eugene, thanks!

As to the wholesale trade in art. LCR recently gave the following link:

http://www.stockartist.net/

The most that neither is on the wholesale trade. :) And about the fact that it is impossible to protect against inflation ... - The author contradicts himself, saying literally that people buying paintings, trying to protect against inflation and save money.

But on the whole paper is interesting and correct.

Евгений 09.07.2008 08:54

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Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 16636)
The most that neither is on the wholesale trade.

Dear Admin, (unfortunately I do not know your name) my opinion, the main idea of exactly the opposite:
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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 16566)
wholesale art excluded.

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 16566)
creating a private collection, you can protect yourself against inflation in Russia, at least, naive.

Masarsky rights were corporate collections of banks (at the time of inflation in 1998 would sell them), where more than half the paintings fufel.

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Admin,
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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 16566)
As a result, Russian art - unclaimed investment resource.

My opinion is the main idea of article Masarskogo.

Admin 09.07.2008 12:46

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 16686)
Dear Admin, (unfortunately I do not know your name) my opinion, the main idea of exactly the opposite

Alexander. But to tell the truth, I never understood your main idea, Eugene. Explain, please. Because of stock on the site is and wholesale trade. Although, of course, is an exception.

And the fact that the Russian art - yet unpromoted investment resource (rather well), - perfectly true.

Евгений 09.07.2008 12:56

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Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 16866)
of stock online is and wholesale

The site loaded very long, twice tried .. not destiny, I can not comment on.

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Сообщение от Admin (Сообщение 16866)
And the fact that the Russian art - yet unpromoted investment resource (rather well), - quite true.

Alexander is the most important thing in the article Masarskogo.
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Sale of paintings, antiques, it is obviously not wholesale prodazha.Naverno this piece-goods ..
The article says exactly:
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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 16566)
Each piece is unique, and to exchange pictures or sculptures to trade, no one will: it is quoted only the standard goods - grain, coal, timber. In other words, wholesale art excluded. Therefore it is necessary to know not just how and where to buy the item, but also its origin and, of course, how profitable it can be subsequently implemented. For all of this information must be clearly-established infrastructure, which in Russia is not yet established.

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Yes, for debugging this infostrukury and created this resource properly?

LCR 09.07.2008 13:07

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 16686)
Masarsky rights were corporate collections of banks (at the time of inflation in 1998 would sell them), where more than half the paintings fufel.

It's not that the meetings were a lot of nonsense banks (as history shows, in the collections of contemporary art is always a lot of slag). I know a couple of collectors who have bought one such meeting, and have 2 or 3 tablespoons for cantly reduce the costly pictures of him are much more than was paid for the entire collection, the fact is that in art as in Exchange, can not invest money that may be needed at any time. And during the default, banks were forced to sell in a matter of urgency and in the most unfavorable conditions.

Евгений 09.07.2008 13:10

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 16886)
is already 2 or 3 pictures of him standing there are a lot more

All right, and this happens.

Meister 09.07.2008 22:18

the way for Russian art have turnover is 1%of world trade) you own the math simple)

Евгений 10.07.2008 10:30

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Russian art is around 1%of world trade

In Russia? In the world? (In Russia, the statistics are not available, one can only assume))

Meister 10.07.2008 11:35

turnover of the Russian market is estimated at 1,5-2 billion official statistics there, but I think somewhere very close


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