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kabaliero 27.10.2012 01:37

Help to identify the print on porcelain.
 
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Amendment: help determine mark. A hereinafter. :)

Japanese set , tea caddy , 4 triples (cup , saucer , dessert a plate ). "Trophy ", with the Russian- Japanese War. Could not find anywhere else in Google like mark. Japanese , alas, do not possess . Perhaps you tell what kind of miracle is and how much you can offer for sale . And is it possible at all.
Thanks in advance. :)

PS : my first post , not much kick , so to speak .

Кирилл Сызранский 27.10.2012 01:52

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Сообщение от kabaliero (Сообщение 2311911)
Help to identify the print on porcelain.

Maybe you need to determine what products mark?

" Seal on china " is usually called the decal, transfer printing - a way of drawing on porcelain.

kabaliero 27.10.2012 02:07

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2311981)
Maybe you need to determine what products mark?
" Seal on china " is usually called the decal, transfer printing - a way of drawing on porcelain .

Well, just so , we are not wiser in this regard. Now Change.

And , those names are not edited, alas. But, yes, it is required to identify the mark.

kr555 27.10.2012 02:31

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Сообщение от kabaliero (Сообщение 2311911)
"Trophy ", with the Russian- Japanese War .

Are you serious , about the Russian-Japanese ?

As for the stamp - would be better if he was photographed close-up than the general form of cups (they are , in my opinion, are of no value ).
There's every little dash for proper rasschifrovki important, to the extent it is impossible to consider anything . I see there in the center of character西 ( NII) which can be trademarked , circled a random set of numbers such as 105 665 , and the rest only when the big picture better .

Кирилл Сызранский 27.10.2012 02:41

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Сообщение от kr555 (Сообщение 2312041)
Are you serious, about the Russian-Japanese?

Maybe it's about the Soviet-Japanese War of '45?
:)

kabaliero 27.10.2012 02:44

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Сообщение от kr555 (Сообщение 2312041)
Are you serious , about the Russian-Japanese ?

Let's just say , we will be assured . For the full severity, perhaps lacking a receipt darivshego Japanese.

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Сообщение от kr555 (Сообщение 2312041)
As for the stamps - would be better if he was photographed close-up than the general form of cups (they are , in my opinion, are of no value ).
There's every little dash for proper rasschifrovki important, to the extent it is impossible to consider anything . I see there in the center of character西 ( NII) which can be trademarked , circled a random set of numbers such as 105 665 , and the rest only when the big picture better .

Alas , the unit for close until we get opportunities.
I can only put the uncompressed original pair of images.
http://img.pixs.ru/storage/8/6/0/IMG...31_6164860.jpg
and
http://img.pixs.ru/storage/8/6/1/IMG...03_6164861.jpg

But thanks for your reply.

Евгений 27.10.2012 06:53

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Сообщение от kabaliero (Сообщение 2312061)
Let's just say, we will be assured.
For complete seriousness, perhaps lacking a receipt darivshego Japanese.

Japan, mid-20th century, kettle 1500-2000 rubles, a cup and saucer to 1,000 rubles .. Collector no interest ..

kabaliero 27.10.2012 08:30

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 2312101)
Japan, mid-20th century, kettle 1500-2000 rubles, a cup and saucer to 1,000 rubles Collector .. no interest ..


Thanks for your answer, Eugene!

Can we clarify what criteria determined the mid-20th century and general rates, in general?

тандем 28.10.2012 11:39

According to the same criteria as in the market in a china shop craftsman choose cups, plates and other utensils - looking that there was no chips, cracks and other defects.
As for dating , it's 60s -70s of the last stoletiya.Podobnymi sets were filled commission shops from Vladivostok to Kaliningrad. Sailors brought them "merchandised " in Hindu shops port cities from Singapore to Gibraltara.Pravda by popularity they conceded the Italian service " Madonna" from Naples and Genoa.

Madhatterrus 28.10.2012 12:39

Dishes in the style of Satsuma.
Post-war (after World War II).

In Moscow, a couple of tea can sell for 1500, this is probably the maximum.


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