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AlexSpb 03.09.2012 23:49

Beautiful Russian (?) Portrait. Supposedly Grand Duchess ...
 
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Here's a portrait sent.
" Alleged" in the title means - according to the source.
Some own muddled thoughts I have , but I suspect that they are in this case does not represent a great value . So do not be their voice ...
But if anyone had immediately recognized the portrait , it would be great!
The fact that such miracles are possible in this forum . I have repeatedly urged .
In short , help me out , dear experts , write something sensible !

uriart 04.09.2012 09:04

AlexSpb, the portrait is very nice!

It may well be the Grand Duchess, or someone from the Russian aristocrats.

Sash across his chest.

It seems, if memory serves, the VK
be Andreev tape.

Konstantin 04.09.2012 10:01

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Johann Baptist Lampi the Elder.

Portrait of Princess E.F.Dolgorukoy as Hebe feeding the eagle.


In my there are some similarities, the hair, the flowers, the dress.

AlexSpb 04.09.2012 10:20

And I have another question: what the picture is not oval , and oval " vrisovan " in the rectangle of the canvas, it is - definitely a sign of authenticity , or not?
At least, I think that in the original frame oval portrait would support special corner insert. Or could it be that the frame later ?

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Sent at last photo of the back. Honestly , about the fact that this is the first wife of Paul, wrote to me yesterday. I just could not believe it, so Natalia is not like here in their canonical portraits, afraid that laughed at :).
However, what seems clear is that the proposed portrait of her age 15-16. Also, maybe she was flattered somewhat , according to this image by issuing marriage to Paul (I'm not an expert, about how they have everything happened).
And in the first two portraits she is in the year of death , she was 21 . Besides, she's "Knocked Up" , and the case is not that does not paint , but like it or not , strongly changes the appearance ...
But in the third image , earlier than the first two , the similarities are captured .
In any case, all cleared up : laminated canvas and stretcher bars - about 40s . That is, it is a copy with some of its early German portrait and I absolutely refused to buy .

And ... in accordance with the concepts of the so-called "corporate ethics" in the interest of the future buyer I your posts in this thread, perhaps today or tomorrow clean.

AlexSpb 04.09.2012 15:27

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Sent at last photo of the back. Honestly , about the fact that this is the first wife of Paul, wrote to me yesterday. I just could not believe it, so Natalia is not like here in their canonical portraits, afraid that laughed at :)>.
However, what seems clear is that the proposed portrait of her age 15-16. Also, maybe she was flattered somewhat , according to this image by issuing marriage to Paul (I'm not an expert, about how they have everything happened).
And in the first two portraits she is in the year of death , she was 21 . Besides, she's "Knocked Up" , and the case is not that does not paint , but like it or not , strongly changes the appearance ...
But in the third image , earlier than the first two , the similarities are captured .
In any case, all cleared up : laminated canvas and stretcher bars - about 40s . That is, it is a copy with some of its early German portrait and I absolutely refused to buy .

And ... in accordance with the concepts of the so-called "corporate ethics" in the interest of the future buyer I your posts in this thread, perhaps today or tomorrow clean.


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