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MurariArt 09.08.2012 09:05

Clover? Help with signature and authorship
 
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Dear Experts
Please help me decide.
- He went to his restorer week ago and saw brought him a job with the caption " Klever 1911" .
Size approximately 70 cm by 90 cm , oil on canvas .
In my "not professional " opinion - this is pure forgery, could not so ' mazyukat " author of the above , and sign it only vaguely resembles .
Our dispute with the restorer flared as he defended a different view , based on their experience , and examination under ultraviolet light pictures .
- " Provenance " <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> supposed to work with Riga's attic, bought for a penny . I was offered a job to get after the restoration, but for the " cheap " <! - ~ 7 ~ ->.
- Should I continue to proceed to substantive examination and evaluation?
Go on to the photo - cleaning and in the process, after a couple of days. Immediately apologize for the quality of photos, pictures with the phone.
Thanks in advance .

Toinen 09.08.2012 09:09

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Сообщение от MurariArt (Сообщение 2194751)
Should I continue to proceed to substantive examination and assessment?



I would not do it!

Кирилл Сызранский 09.08.2012 09:11

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Сообщение от MurariArt; 2194751"
In my "not professional " opinion - this is pure forgery ,

This is a fake , then something is inconvenient to call ...

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Сообщение от MurariArt; 2194751"
Our argument broke out with the restorer , as he defended a different view , based on their experience , and examination under ultraviolet light pattern .

He just wants to sell it , and on the " defended ." Not blind is he , in actual fact ?

Konstantin 09.08.2012 09:36

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Сообщение от MurariArt; 2194751"
work with Riga's attic ,

When we talk about the workshops is that most of the fakes is nonsense , and not hard work of genius artists. And the phrase "a picture of the attic grandmother " has 95%of the diagnosis.
We do not believe that can be so simple and so rude .
We need to take this picture as an illustration .

Eriksson 09.08.2012 11:16

MurariArt, the restorer of your - send to resign ...

redbor 09.08.2012 13:21

No need to restorer.
He was tried, directed the formulation of
- " A random display of unopened Clover 's masterpiece ."
 It was not his fault that the customer does not pecked , and even " nezadorogo " did not want to . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
 MurariArt, although of course , sorry .
 Who do you believe that a restorer that is trying so unpretentious vtyuhat " clover from the attic "

Toinen 09.08.2012 13:47

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2194951)
your restorer - send to resign ...



"Do not stelyayte a pianist, he plays like a can!" (C)

MurariArt 09.08.2012 22:13

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2195031)
Do not restorer.
He was tried, directed the formulation of
- " A random display of unopened Clover 's masterpiece ."
 It was not his fault that the customer does not pecked , and even " nezadorogo " did not want to . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
 MurariArt, although of course , sorry .
 Who do you believe that a restorer that is trying so unpretentious vtyuhat " clover from the attic "

Yes , he actually did not vtyuhivat , I was interested in restoring what kind of work , he called the owner and he told all of the above Old . Strange, but UV light showed that the work was restored for a long time and only in a sealed place , I was a little dismayed with the confidence restorer and if it were not for the writing style , the <! - ~ 12 ~ -> I have not posted here this creation

Кирилл Сызранский 09.08.2012 22:50

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Сообщение от MurariArt (Сообщение 2195541)
Strange, but UV light showed that the work was restored for a long time and only in a sealed place

So what?


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Сообщение от MurariArt (Сообщение 2195541)
I was a little dismayed

Why not?

redbor 09.08.2012 23:40

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Сообщение от MurariArt; 2195541 '
Yes , he actually did not vtyuhivat , I was interested in restoring what kind of work , he called the owner and he told all of the above Old

Well, it was intended . So that you have noticed and asked .
Here then it appears that it is " with Clover Riga attic !" <! - ~ 1 ~ -> seems like everything is accidental ...
You , fortunately, did not believe and you have become convinced
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Сообщение от MurariArt; 2194751"
Our argument broke out with the restorer , as he defended a different view , based on their experience , and examination under ultraviolet light pattern .



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