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AlexFEO 06.07.2012 13:24

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I can not independently determine the approximate cost of ownership and , if possible ask to evaluate this artifact . The tip of the iron , flat, in the middle of the thickness of the metal . Judging from the remains of feathers were 3 guides the pen ( maybe not quite express myself correctly, but I do not know how to explain in a different way ). The length of the shaft - 93.5 cm found in the Genoese fortress, between the stones .

Pecheneg 06.07.2012 22:31

Medieval bow arrow 12 - 14th century.

But I would like to note that the Genoese are often filmed movies about the Middle Ages and later in time, so in all likelihood, this boom in the Middle Ages has no otnosheniya.Veroyatney of Lost theatrical props.

Дилетант 06.07.2012 23:17

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I would like to note that the Genoese are often filmed movies about the Middle Ages and later in time, so in all likelihood, this boom in the Middle Ages has no otnosheniya.Veroyatney of Lost theatrical props.

Exactly. If this is the Genoese Fortress in Sudak - so we are there in the early 70's all oblazali ... Fig-then what would be the medieval boom hid from our inquisitive eyes! And after we worked there, archaeologists and restorers - also a finger in your mouth do not put guys.
I know where this arrow. In the Genoese fortress which year are bugurty - costume competitions. The children of military-historical clubs in suits - who are in that much! In armor, with bows, arrows, arquebuses, axes. They live there, in the fortress. Day - derutstsa of firing guns and arquebuses, swords rubyatstsa - smoke yoke! And at night - or "in tattered tents sleep", or the fortress were ransacked. (Judging by the number of broken at the end of the season hands and feet - most were ransacked after all).
And for every hryvnia skokototam Kosorukov archery shoot yield. In the bag with a straw. Well, Kosorukov - and happy staratstsa: hammering in white light, like a lot of money! That's where there is an arrow between the stones. is true to you river!

EvgeniyMarkov 07.07.2012 03:17

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Сообщение от dabbler (Сообщение 2161361)
And for every hryvnia skokototam Kosorukov archery shoot yield . In the bag with a straw . Well, Kosorukov - and happy staratstsa : hammering in white light, like a lot of money ! That's where there is an arrow between the stones. is true to you river !

Truth saith ... Amateur restorers , archaeologists , and reenactors ...
Arrow explicitly from the point of shooting archery festival ...

In 1927 , after zemlyatresyaniya part of the stent in the Crimea the Genoese fortress in Sudak had fallen , and lay the wreckage to the 60s until it began a major restoration, and krepeost not become similar to that which is in the photo.
Since 2000, the territory of the fortress were festivals of historical reconstruction with the names of " Genoa the helmet ," and so on, to which people come from all over the CIS and foreign countries. What happens at festivals Amateur krasachno described .
I will make an amendment :
 Bugurt - staging a battle in which two groups of soldiers , armed with blunt weapons ( spears, halberds , swords, maces and axes ) fought against each other for a particular scenario , wins the party , whose warriors ostayuts feet.
Photos 2005 and 2001 below.

AlexFEO 07.07.2012 08:53

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Exactly. If this is the Genoese Fortress in Sudak - so we are there in the early 70's all oblazali ...

No, to Sudak has nothing to do , Theodosius. And found long ago, back in the '80s, when the lads climbed to not get . By the way, winding, which is on the flagpole where the tip is so petrified that even a knife can not podkovyrnut .

Дилетант 07.07.2012 14:48

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No, to Sudak has nothing to do, Theodosia.

So I head garden!
By nick could have guessed that you had in mind Genoese fortress in Feodosia ...
No, there we climbed.
And once we climbed - and then from the XIII century could survive chent <! - ~ 1 ~ -> Do not mention the XIV-th ...
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Good luck!

Pecheneg 08.07.2012 00:02

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tip of the iron , flat, in the middle of the thickness of the metal . Judging from the remains of feathers were 3 guides the pen ( maybe not quite express myself correctly, but I do not know how to explain in a different way ). The length of the shaft - 93.5 cm

Even if we assume that the boom of the later time ... let's say 17 times the Zaporozhian Sich - 18. , But this is unlikely because he was already firearms .. Think you could do a pole arm , and with traces of feathers so well preserved for 300 years. and preserved at all? As said Vs . Amateur, and I repeat, is a boom or a movie theater rikvizitom or reconstruction.

EvgeniyMarkov 08.07.2012 01:57

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No, to Sudak has nothing to do, Theodosius. And found long ago, back in the '80s, when the lads climbed to not get. By the way, winding, which is on the flagpole where the tip is so petrified that even a knife can not podkovyrnut.

AlexFEO,
in Feodosia, too, have their own festivals reconstruction, called Ancient Kafa

08/15/2011

The historical reconstruction of ancient Kafa in Feodosia held August 23 at the annual International Festival "Mountain talents."

According to the Resort Information Center of the ARC, in the event, which will be held on the territory of the Genoese, will be recreated scenes from the life of the medieval town, including the sale of slaves in the market.

Also during the festival will continue shooting the historical documentary film about the life and culture of ancient Kafa. Part of the filming will take place there, on the Genoese in Feodosia, and more filmmakers will go to the fortress in Sudak. The film will release in six months.

 Recall Kapha - the former name of Theodosius, this city by the Genoese. For a long time the city served as the main port and center of control of the Genoese colony in the northern Black Sea region. By the middle of the XV century Kafa has surpassed the size of Constantinople.


http://www.primorye.in.ua/news/19-is...vney-kafy.html

AlexFEO 08.07.2012 10:15

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Сообщение от EvgeniyMarkov (Сообщение 2162581)
AlexFEO,
in Feodosia , too, have their own festivals reconstruction, called Ancient Kafa

You casually read what I wrote. Arrow has been found at the Union in 1986. , While about any renovations nobody even heard of.
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Сообщение от Pecheneg (Сообщение 2162341)
... the arrow is either a movie theater rikvizitom or reconstruction .

Found in the masonry , the angle of the tower began to collapse , a team driven to repair , and that's found when moved a stone . It is doubtful that this prop looks too realistic. And hardly anyone would have held a full credibility of the renovation , for the sake of one arm so much hassle . I suppose, from the tip of the winding is made of some animal gut , and everyone is so petrified that podkovyrnut impossible.

Pecheneg 08.07.2012 10:47

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found in the masonry , the angle of the tower began to collapse , a team driven to repair , and that's found when moved a stone .

You entered the information into an hour of a teaspoon ... <! - ~ 1 ~ -> You probably know perfectly well that the monitor can only make a rough estimate , and attribution , and the object must be seen live. So , show her in Feodosia kraevedchskom , and experts at it , holding it in his hands, give a more accurate conclusion.


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