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Андрей797 02.07.2012 15:23

Signature? Please help
 
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Dear Experts please help decipher the signature on the painting

John Preston 02.07.2012 17:12

I suppose that is Mitrofan S. Fedorov (1870-1942).


Although S. Mitrofan letter 'M is usually set to the name.
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Us-tin 02.07.2012 17:24

In the next topic is about the same picture: http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=163291 ...

Андрей797 02.07.2012 17:53

Thank you very much!

Дилетант 02.07.2012 18:52

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Сообщение от John Preston; 2156921"
I suppose that is Mitrofan S. Fedorov (1870-1942).

Fedorov - exactly. Through the " Fitting ". And so there Mitrofan - who knows ? Fedorov in reference books - a small car and truck ...
There was a quip from I.Selvinskogo : "Who knows Fedorov Basil ? He also original, as his name ..."

Us-tin 02.07.2012 19:46

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Mueller-Kurtsvelli wrote something like this ...

Дилетант 02.07.2012 20:56

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Сообщение от Us-tin; 2157221"
Muller- Kurtsvelli wrote something like this ...

Yes something like who just did not write ! Burkhardt wrote ? Wrote . Welz wrote ? Wrote . Kryzhitsky wrote ? Wrote . Schilder Andrey wrote ? Wrote . Riznichenko wrote ? Wrote . Prokofiev wrote ? Wrote . Ovsyannikov - and he wrote . And wrote a dozen landscape . Moreover, these artists - writing and a dozen imitators they have cheated . (Well, Found , Zotov - that's not to be unfounded ). So why such a obscheparohodsky landscape could not be honest and write a Fedorov ? (Especially as the signature looks good. It looks so-so reliably ). Seventeen of writing , three - put on the mind , total - Fedorov !

Игорь Гурьев 03.07.2012 04:47

One does not look like it's 1913, even on a greased reproduction.


Rather, it is shorthand Arbat 90 years later ...


Yes, and signatures are placed only skoropistsy ...

To even the breeding time to save the signature, I think.

Whack-Whack - and you're done.

John Preston 03.07.2012 08:54

Цитата:

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 2157421)
Rather, it is shorthand Arbat 90 years later ...


The quality of this work, of course, low ...
However, the state of the canvas does not have to think about the creation date "90 years later."
Although, if recorded on an old canvas ...
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Дилетант 03.07.2012 09:09

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor ; 2157421"
One does not look like it's 1913 , even on a greased reproduction .

Rather, it is shorthand Arbat 90 years later ...

Yeah ? And in my opinion - quite typical of the 1910s, landscape ..

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Сообщение от John Preston; 2157551"
However, if recorded on an old canvas ...

Nope, nothing there , " recorded" . In the area of ​​the signature on the loss of local areas ( to be exact - vykroshek ) paint layer is clearly visible ground ( and not the underlying paint layer ).
Canvas ( judging from pictures ) - ordinal , plain weave, fine-grained enough , and rare, with large gaps between the threads of both the basis and on a duck . In a word - a typical cheap Canvas end of XIX - the first quarter of the XX century.
Soil - a single-layer , most likely - according to preliminary sizing .
A state of copyright colorful pastas - THIS CURRENT tinyscope . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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Сообщение от dabbler (Сообщение 2157581)
ordinal,

Ordinary, of course.
Ordinary.
In the presentation of a coherent system of vile crept ochepyatka ...
(Like, instead of a printed "belly my comfort in high teremu" should read "Lives my poison in high teremu")


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