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Вильгельмина 21.06.2012 22:08

A copy of Plato's "Naymichki", help assess
 
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A copy of Plato's "Naymichki."
What is your opinion?

мистер-у 21.06.2012 22:43

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Сообщение от Wilhelmina (Сообщение 2146381)
A copy of Plato's "Naymichki."
What is your opinion?


Lucian wrote the original Popov, Chariton Platonov has nothing to do with this work.

It is worth not much.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.06.2012 22:52

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Lucian wrote the original Popov, Chariton Platonov has no relation to this work.

Is this thing does not JP
Morris from RM?

Николай Левенко 21.06.2012 23:36

In 2009, the topic was discussed.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...t=47663&page=1

Кирилл Сызранский 22.06.2012 00:01

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran; 2146431 '] Is this thing does not JP
Morris from RM?
[/QUOTE]

Not lazy, looked into the directory timing:

[QUOTE][COLOR="DarkSlateGray
Platonov, Chariton Platonovich (1842-1907)

Naymichka, 1886

Oil on canvas.
115.5 h69, 5.
Bottom right: H.
Platonov 1886


Fasting.
in 1923 from the Academy of Fine Arts [K-5640]
[/COLOR]


redbor 22.06.2012 01:55

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Сообщение от Mr - y (Сообщение 2146411)
wrote the original Lucian Popov, Chariton Platonov has nothing to do with this work ...

.. well somewhere , but not quite ... all have a bearing on <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Chariton Platonov wrote this picture in 1886 . That's his signature .
And fifteen years later Popov Lucian also wrote the picture , and put his signature .
(located in the Orenburg Museum of Fine Arts ? !)
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redbor 22.06.2012 02:19

But the big question that L.Popov also wrote that "Naymichku" that Christie's sold for $ 42,000.
 

Probably just someone forged his signature on the copy

Игорь Гурьев 22.06.2012 04:49

Well, the one on the " Christy ", written better than the original.

One can only assume that Com. Popov, someone ordered a copy and he has written.

Highly doubt it can , but what does not happen .

I've seen a picture of Korovin's " summer ", which is repeated , just for fun, one of the artists ' severe style . "

It was written as good comrade . Korovin , I confess .

And if he has put his signature , then the next . century in general, all stand in a deadlock.

At Christie's . Or at Sotheby's .
Or in Phillips.

Determined only by the presence of titanium oxide .

Дилетант 22.06.2012 07:32

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Message from Gogol
Anna Andreyevna. - So true, and "Yuri Miloslavsky" your essay?
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MARYA. - Oh, mama, it says that this gentleman Zagoskina essay.
Khlestakov. - Oh yeah, that's true, that's for sure Zagoskina, but there is another "Yuri Miloslavsky" because he's my.

 to the message from two Gogols. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

In fact, everything is much simpler.
 Chariton Platonov wrote "Naymichku," and immediately put it on an annual academic fair. In the exhibition the painting was acquired in the property of the Imperial Academy of Arts (in timing came from there), and APTAMATITSKI added to the list of originals, designed for student copying.
And repeat it, accordingly, could any studiozus. And Lukyan Popov - including. But something I doubt that the official copy of the original surviving author of the Academy, a conscientious copyist did not put before the signature of the few magic words or "Cb because Platonov," or "Cb because of such and such. Cop. John Doe."

In Orenburg Museum (Popov was born near Orenburg) stores the original artist. and the Museum of the Academy of Fine Arts - also original.

In addition to the above, I have to let us know as well as other paintings Platonov (Little Mother, Village Nanny, Maroussia, tramp, milk spilled, eaten pussy, Buy berries Zhidovochka, from work, Tatarka with the child, Gypsy etc), painting "Naymichka" enjoyed huge success with viewers, and have been reproduced in art journals. And in the interim it could copy the original, finally can anyone (and that actually happened. I have personally seen at least 2 dozen copies of varying quality).

But "Naymichku" sold at Christie's, to consider the work L.V.Popova can be either a very big hangover, or because of a truly encyclopedic knowledge of the staff of Russian ...
And at least it is strange that there are no references in the catalog or on the nature of the paintings authenticity, "Popov" or the famous original.
It would be like to write: "Wait, let go." Picture of the painter. Mazurovskii. "<! - ~ 7 ~ ->
 
That somehow, in general ...

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Grigory 22.06.2012 10:10

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Who knows what kind of crap with horrible images and text in Vietnamese?
It's a miracle crumb - a cheerleader, had no idea flopped.

It was spam from Vietnam ...


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