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Seriy 05.05.2012 14:15

The import of the exhibition of paintings in Germany
 
Intend to import the pictures on exhibition in Germany. Already stocked in the German document that refers to the exhibition of our cultural exchange and inter-state government department of the Russian Federation is carried out in Germany on a commercial basis .
In principle , there is a Protocol of Florence in 1950 on the import of books and pictures and things, exempting these items from customs duties and it is approved by the Bundestag ,

But the German customs officers actually stick with a request to pay a 7%fee. Who knows the thread , on what basis , what law - customs document required to pay a deposit fee ( refundable if it is exported ) and how to avoid the formal ?
Thank you.

sergejnowo 05.05.2012 15:53

Seriy, in general, after the introduction of a single customs union, the old agreement are only valid in the light of new laws.
At its core, the process of painting vvoza clear and stable, but .. nuances of the design is currently heavily dependent on the customs authorities in the field and the details are extremely volatile. Such processes need to be given into the hands of professionals.
In short:
If a public exhibition (if private, then you have to pay all fees and do not grieve), it is necessary to issue a temporary import into the picture, - vorübergehende einfuhr. With this import customs (the state) takes a certain amount of bail (in the worst case: import duty + VAT). In your case, this amount is incident is just 7%, a VAT, import duties, in this case does not. Nuances in the dark, with a local general can not take a pledge, or only half, for example. Registration can be documented or verbal - such as calling on the phone.
Your "state institution of the Russian Federation in Germany," if it deals with these things on a regular basis, should know about it. If not, then let him seek a specialized firm near the German names of such firms "Zolldeklarant", they all tell and show.

Кирилл Сызранский 05.05.2012 16:36

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 2094611)
takes a certain amount of bail

A "bail" of what?
What is the meaning of this pledge?
Why should he?
It's like a pre-charge is VAT?

sergejnowo 05.05.2012 16:43

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Сообщение от Kirill Syzran (Сообщение 2094671)
It's like a pre-charge is VAT?

yes

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Seriy 05.05.2012 17:37

sergejnowo, thanks!

Government department said that the issues of taxes , our personal . The only thing that helped , said of the Protocol of Florence , and gave us that we fall under the interstate non-profit cultural exchange.
Interviewed have vezzhaet - take nothing happens , it happens -that require and want to understand.
We have customs telephone information in English , call and write to them.
It is unclear how the amount of charge VAT return , as some say , in cash , but you need to go somewhere far away , others say , just to the account opened in the German bank.

P.S. So, how to return this VAT three - 1.tamozhnya returns it to the account in Germany through some months after his departure , 2.ty get it back when vezzhaet back to Germany
Three . receive this amount immediately upon Departure , but through an intermediary with the retention of the commission.

Маруся 06.05.2012 16:48

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Сообщение от "Seriy; 2094711 '
So, how the return of VAT three


In fact, the way to return - one need only obtain the necessary papers ....

Sergey, please contact: what I can - help you.

Seriy 06.05.2012 18:42

Maroussia, thanks!
If you look at the issue more widely , in addition to the Protocol of Florence there is the Russian- German agreement on kultursotrudnichestve on which all parties , cultural events organized by the cultural offices receive visas free of charge. It also imports TOTAL (including cars and typewriters ) to the cultural representations are not subject to customs duties and other payments. T e the Germans did not have with us and take the BAT .

artcol 09.11.2012 23:27

Gray, tell us how it went in terms of import-export.

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 2094611)
If a public exhibition ( if private , you have to pay all the fees and not grieve ), then is necessary to issue a temporary import into the picture, - vorübergehende einfuhr. With this import Customs ( State ) takes a certain amount of bail ( in the worst case: the import duty + VAT). In your case , this amount accumulates just 7%is VAT , import duties in this case.

I think so, too, in Italy about the same logic db ...

K-Maler 09.11.2012 23:39

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2094711)
This poll is vezzhaet-


Petersburg artists took no problem visas to Finland and from there without a problem, taking more and Finnish artists to enter, with the paintings in Germany.
No fees, taxes, etc.

It may be for your group can be another way ...

Seriy 09.11.2012 23:53

German customs officers we saw not on arrival or on departure.
But our frayed nerves . We have a lot of pictures , oversized cargo by size. Customs sits on the second floor. The young lady says, carry your things, unpack and show me pictures. One hundred percent? Yes , all. We go, and lift our things , of course not, by tiny Domodedovo passenger elevator. Tamozhennitsa says, do not know anything , wear whatever you want, even on his head.
Went to look for the customs authorities on the ground floor , found the guy, explained that in any elevators, we did not go in, the plane late, all the documents we okay, personally signed by the Head of the Ministry of Culture preservation of cultural values ​​. The old man looked at photos and documents , talk with the artists and gave us a print.
We wish him all the best , and harmful and lazy lady - just not good. If not for uncle, we had not gone.

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K-Maler, the rules and laws by Marusya own perseverance and I have learned. Formally, if there is a document of a non-profit exhibition in a museum or a special place, exempt from tax , you can import free of tax, but with the design of a special declaration to the list of works that predyavlyat at checkout. All other cases , no options , pay taxes.
And as it is in life , it is very different.


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