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anton1960 02.05.2012 14:05

Galleries and dealers with a dubious reputation.
 
I suggest the theme of galleries and shops selling questionable work or left ekpertizami , and of course dealers. Many of my clients more than once flew to the unscrupulous market operators and small dealers. Many of them beat their breasts by hand ... you mean .. it Aiwaz 100 percent , that have the expertise or the Institute of restoration of the RM (and that is not confirmed Grabar - so they do not understand ), then it is still falshakov and try to get money from them , very often, it is problematic to put it mildly .
Of course it is not ethical to be called names in public galleries and dealers , but is ethically vparivat fakes ? ? They only think about the enrichment and not the customer ... With these companions on TV and in the press there was a stereotype - rogue antique dealer , and many serious and rich people are just afraid to put money into this segment.I my opinion - if you trade you shit - let everyone know about it .

Toinen 02.05.2012 14:34

Too me, a fighter with a universal evil, the last bastion of morality and ethics!

Why would you choose to arrogate to itself the right to accuse and hang tags?
You - the court of last resort?

Кирилл Сызранский 02.05.2012 14:51

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Сообщение от anton1960; 2090691 "
Of course it is not ethical to be called names in public galleries and dealers , but is ethically vparivat fakes ? ?

So call .
Everyone will be interesting.
Or you waiting for , what others will now be called names in public galleries and dealers "?
No, just go to his "crusade , let yourself and call .
And then:
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Сообщение от anton1960; 2090691"
Many of my clients more than once flew to the unscrupulous market operators and small dealers .

Passwords turnout addresses . ( a ) :)

джоанна 02.05.2012 15:05

I have been in a " gallery" in St. Petersburg at the St. Nicholas Cathedral . My good friend bought a few things " with a guarantee ." Led her to a certain Vladimir - former athlete .
But it was a place called " the poor ", but there is also a more serious organization, producing clones under the existing expertise in the real thing. This is a general " subsurface method." Take some wonderful Luba and Serov , or Kustodiev, rent it indefinitely to the examination , you get endless paper for $ 1,000 each , and a paper produce clones. Of course, not be abused , but 1-2 " copies" are .
There is a " respectable " institution specializing in this kind of forgery . All who need to know the address and owner , but ... "walk is slippery on the stones other then that we'd better shut up close ." Though, sooner or later, every secret is revealed.

Кирилл Сызранский 02.05.2012 15:13

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You take some wonderful Luba and Serov, or Kustodiev, rent it indefinitely to the examination, you get endless paper for $ 1,000 each, and a paper produce clones.
Of course, not be abused, but 1-2 "copies" are.

How easy!
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джоанна 02.05.2012 15:17

and you have not seen it?

I envy you.
It's certainly not easy, but people are doing it "professional."

Vladimir 02.05.2012 15:19

If you do not consider the specific evidentiary examples ( with photos and descriptions of case) , the theme of risk in three steps to become a place of anonymous accounts and information manipulation. You will be removed.

At the same time on the forum is an excellent special issue of forgery, with the consideration of specific examples. There and sellers indicate.

джоанна 02.05.2012 15:24

there is such a wonderful word "reputation".
It did not need specific examples and photographs.
Maybe just a topic badly formulated.
It would be better not to name names without proof of dealers and gallery owners, and talk about their reputation, and sapienti sat

Кирилл Сызранский 02.05.2012 15:27

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Сообщение от Joanne , 2090831"
and you have not met with this ?

I do not know the work " remarkable , or Luba Serova or Kustodiev " which were bydo this moment is not known to art historians, would have no provenance and expertise.
That I do not know .
And you seem to know where the closet is full of such works , huh?
Pulled out of the closet such a wonderful couple Somov , took the examination , received a " paper $ 1,000 for each " paid copyists , and then sold copies of the Luba of " securities " as podliniki . Yeah?
And so many times ?
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Сообщение от Joanne , 2090801"
1-2 " copies" are held .

 You would not have a picture , the head , you could write a book ! ( a ) :)

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Сообщение от "Vladimir; 2090841 '
You will be removed.

You can safely delete this topic immediately.

It was created, in my opinion, a random person on the forum, and they themselves can not be extended naturally

So, chat with fellow smart people gone ...
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anton1960 02.05.2012 15:35

Please example, there is a gallery on the Rus -Art Prechistenke.Moy client can not get back the money for the sold work of dubious paper Petrova.A its owner V.Sharikov motivated by the fact that in Grabar and Artkonsaltinge and the former TG and other professionals do not understand ... A paper Petrov is the only correct conclusion ... even though the signature on the work done later , and generally stays rengs and materials themselves do not maintain technological expertise.


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