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Eriksson 29.04.2012 10:37

Moist sub-frame
 
The picture with the old subframe, 100-year-old, kept in inappropriate conditions and moist sub-frame, "Command", the tree a little bit swollen.

How to dry and straighten?
I can not remove the cloth - it is nailed in a special way, characteristic only for this artist.



Who will advise?

Kaffsky 29.04.2012 11:37

Цитата:

Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2087131)
The picture with the old subframe ...
How to dry and straighten ?


Who will advise ?

Eriksson, you must first decide , what is more valuable : the canvas stretcher , or ...?

Further, before restoration picture carefully photographed , something to
not to lose the features of leaf attachment to the subframe.

Then the painting still needs to be removed from the stretcher .

It is the same as the stretcher was in the wet , so
restorer will first need to wrestle with the possibility of mold.

Stretcher dried and processed separately from the canvas,
 or dispose of all, using the same principle-

" more valuable: the canvas or the stretcher ...". <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Eriksson 29.04.2012 12:30

Kaffsky, fungus , thank God , no. Not so disastrous to lug to the restorer . Here's how to be at home ... ?
I thought, might impose a stretcher linen bags of calcium chloride ? It is sold as an absorbent for homes , seemingly harmless .
It does not hurt the oil ?

тандем 29.04.2012 14:03

To decide how to act in such cases is necessary to know the degree of deformation of the stretcher, and what consequences this has resulted in the deformation with respect to holstu.Esli canvas on one diagonal is strongly taut and slack on the other ("sail") and even forcibly straightening the canvas stretcher is not returned in the normal state, the sub-frame should be clearly zamenit.Eto work for the restorer. If the deformation of the stretcher and the canvas is small or absent from the canvas, the stretcher must be dried by putting a picture on a clean canvas, painting down on top of the back of the picture put a piece of plywood or a countertop, and gruz.Estestvenno picture should be in a dry place. In the gap between stretcher and canvas we have to put sheets of paper which has absorbent properties. This will speed up the drying in the first place, and secondly not allow subframe to leave traces in the form of a square on the canvas perimeter zhivopisi.Listy these should be changed. rate changes depends on the degree of dampness of wood stretcher. Sorbents of which you speak are applicable, but blowing hot air net.Podramnik dry, but the deformation is not completely disappear t.k.odin times deformed, wooden structure remains the navsegda.No inserting a picture with a slight deformation of the subframe in the frame and pushing the stretcher to the plane of the fixture, you are visually correct the situation.

Eriksson 29.04.2012 14:53

Цитата:

Сообщение от tandem (Сообщение 2087461)
. In the gap between the subframe and the canvas we have to put sheets of paper which has adsorbent properties


Tandem, thanks!
That's what an experience!
The paper is suitable as an absorbent?

тандем 29.04.2012 15:59

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2087481)
newspaper is suitable as an absorbent?

 
In principle, da.Tolko first check so as not to get dirty printing kraska.V knigi.Udachi use as cargo.

Artforboy 29.04.2012 19:55

Eriksson, instead of the newspaper is better put a filter paper.

Toinen 29.04.2012 20:06

Цитата:

Сообщение от Artforboy (Сообщение 2087791)
instead of the newspaper is better put a filter paper




And best of all listen to the advice of Kaffsky

Artforboy 29.04.2012 20:24

Toinen, good advice from Kaffsky, but the sense of how to shoot a picture ? If the subframe is cracked , broken, broken corner joints then yes restoration needs . And there is only damp , "Command " (the picture is not broken ) , a little swollen is not so dangerous. Agrees with the tandem , subframe can extend the life of dried and inserted into the frame . You can turn shellachkom stretcher to remove the cover if there is a skewed figure of eight sub-frame , but this is a very rare case .

Дилетант 30.04.2012 13:44

Magic Tips! In particular - about the "shellachka" who (is) we can eliminate the bias strips stretcher ...
For the record: while the damp wood is not properly dried, cover it anything other than the mat, it is strongly not recommended. Do not bother to evaporate moisture and negativity naturally.
Eriksson, a board: show restorer. (Optional - should shellac polish only for its intended purpose).
While reading the reviews about the use of experts in such cases "shellachka" and insoles for drying shoes - that's remembered.

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