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Dogel 11.04.2012 21:34

Marat Gelman Gallery closes on the "Winery"
 
Gallery owner Marat Gelman
confirmed published in "Moskovsky Komsomolets"
message stating that "the Gelman Gallery," "Winery"
cease to exist in its present form. "Instead, the
production center will be "Cultural Alliance ', which will be
the art of other Russian cities "-
Gelman told RIA Novosti.
According to Gelman, the reason for this decision was that
Russian market of collectibles, especially
contemporary art, virtually ceased to
exist. "About 80 percent of all collectors,
collecting contemporary art, has left Russia ", -
he said.
"The Fall of the art market is directly linked to
increased levels of corruption and the general atmosphere.
The middle class, not seeing the class of large-scale collections, not
comes to mind to collect the art itself, "- said
Gelman in my LJ. According to the gallerist, the situation
explained by the fact that now in Russia, most
collectors - it is the officials who hide collection
because they "are not interested (to) show
their wealth to society. "

According to Gelman, the "Winery" and closed gallery
XL Elena Selina, but accurate information on this subject
no. "Celine does, in my opinion, the curatorial project
ceases to be art galleries and cultural institutions will be "
- Said the gallery owner. It is expected that more details about these
changes gallerists tell at a press conference on the
"Winery" on April 23.
All the galleries in question, there are 20 years or
more and is considered one of the most authoritative
galleries of contemporary art in Russia.

Konstantin 11.04.2012 22:33

Read about the challenges facing contemporary art in Russia, in our latest article:

How to "reset" Russian market of contemporary art?

ARTinvestment.RU - 11.04.2012, 16:14

As part of its economic model of a modern contemporary art , even stylistically must radiate success. The collector should be involved in an intellectual feast, with its celebrities, glamorous exciting glossy media, prizes , awards, auction records, debates adventuresome ... In the eyes of the layman look for certain well-known artists "stars " from imposing fees , and gallery owners , and leaders of the art market - people almost all-powerful . Reasons to doubt this should not be, and the problems in a segment of contemporary Russian art to speak out loud is not accepted. But, unfortunately , is infinitely camouflage sharp economic moment is impossible. Continued here.

sportsmen 12.04.2012 09:45

Constantine

I carefully read your terrific study, "How to" reset "Russian market of contemporary art." It reminded me a lot with a bearded Armenian Radio anecdote:

- How to deal with alcoholism in the USSR?
- Dismiss the cleaner and hang posters: "Drink - Harmful".

What you have written, it looks good for some states like the Czech Republic or Mexico. But for Russia, these tips look like the building of communism. In order to restart the market for Russian art, which is required to solve more pressing problems of Russian:

1) Total bydlezatsiya, lumpenization, odebilenie, nihilism of the Russian society.

2) Stop the exodus from the country of normal people, that if at least not for myself, but certainly for the sake of their children fleeing from Russia as from the plague.

3) Make it normal in Russia, democratic government, no feudalism, no putinistov, theft, corruption, cops, Yevsyukov, torture, monsters, officials, impunity and permissiveness, and so on.

4) Create an environment in Russia, so that life in Russia seemed attractive to normal people, not just the drunks, thieves, and the proletarians to UralVagonZavod.

5) independent from the policy of the court, to introduce strict laws and penalties for all transgress the law, even for the most heads of state.



And only after that the minimum we can talk about your ideas restart Russian art market. And while that trend is about which one can not speak except on the art market crash in Russia.

Posav 12.04.2012 10:01

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3) Make it normal in Russia, democratic government , no feudalism , no

It's impossible. We'll have to give freedom to the indigenous peoples , and then, as they say , look , or a small democratic Russia without the oil and gas, or large, but the " prison of nations " dominated the relationship , " frighten and nepuschat ."

sportsmen 12.04.2012 10:15

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 2067241)
It's impossible. We'll have to give freedom to the indigenous peoples , and then, as they say , look , or a small democratic Russia without the oil and gas, or large, but the " prison of nations " dominated the relationship , " frighten and nepuschat ".

Why are small and indigenous peoples must demand their independence ? And especially do not understand why the government is obliged to provide them ? Neither S.Amerike or South America do not return power to the indigenous Indians.

But you can give the Russian regions , at least partially to dispose of their oil and gas, then it would not become this idiotic situation in Russia with Moscow, where all are cutting , as all income received is Moscow. And what's more the tale, Russia needs to establish with the regions of the same power as in the U.S. with each state. There is essentially every state , as it were a separate state with its government and laws. To avoid separatism , it is necessary to give the regions to manage their wealth and income , so they have built a " Moscow" and struggled with their own problems.

Konstantin 12.04.2012 10:34

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It was only after the minimum we can say

About a ...
I myself have always voted against the GDP, and actively participated in all the rallies against the winter , that is a matter to confirm its position here in Russia. But when I read these sermons from afar , the thought creeps in - " Can nothing? " sportsmen left - and goodbye , solve the problem is now Germany.
Once again the subject of art write the text of the policy banned forever.
Posav As for you, too .

sur 12.04.2012 10:50

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2067321)
Oh, how ...

"sportsmen left - and goodbye, solve the problem is now Germany.

I agree.
By the way, I do not know who has a business, and I have all sold.
The point, apparently, not only in the market, but also that it is selling, what is the artists do.
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Konstantin 12.04.2012 10:57

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Сообщение от sur (Сообщение 2067351)
It seems, not only in the market, but also that it is selling, what exactly do artists

But with the market, that is, with people willing to spend money on painting, all just getting better.

Of course it in a sentence, and prices.

sportsmen 12.04.2012 11:17

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2067321)
I personally have always voted against the GDP, and actively participated in all the rallies against the winter, that is a matter to confirm its position here in Russia

This is clearly not enough. It's time for a long time to "vote" against the Soviet-type mentality, and learn one important principle of Western: "to respect other people's opinions". Until I see the same scoop - who is not exactly in the leg and tries to criticize the praises of decorative bosses - that once banyat. And throw Putin and put in its place the next bydlana, it's just replacing names of the gravy train.

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But when I read these sermons from afar, the thought creeps in - "Can nothing?" sportsmen left - and goodbye, solve the problem is now Germany.

Where you saw morality?? These are my thoughts, nothing more. I see what has made Germany finally succeeded, and I see a rotten scoop. When he lived in the USSR, I foresaw that he would soon die under the weight of his idiocy. Now I see how soon die Putin's Russia under the weight of his stupidity and degradation.

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2067321)
Once again the subject of art write the text of the policy banned forever.

This is not a subject of art, namely the issue of politics.

According to Gelman, the reason for this decision was that
Russian market of collectibles, especially
contemporary art, virtually ceased to
exist. "About 80 percent of all collectors,
collecting contemporary art, has left Russia ", -
he said. "The Fall of the art market is directly linked to
increased levels of corruption and the general atmosphere.
The middle class, not seeing the class of large-scale collections, not
comes to mind to collect the art itself, "- said
Gelman in my LJ. According to the gallerist, the situation
explained by the fact that now in Russia, most
collectors - it is the officials who hide collection
because they "are not interested (to) show
their wealth to society "


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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2067321)
with people willing to spend money on painting, all just getting better

Well, just in Zoshchenko <! - ~ 1 ~ -> galleries are closed, all the prominent figures of the art market as an arrangement suggests a complete disaster, auctions are empty, every year more and more hireet MMHS, art shops are closed .... However, some stakeholders from the business Artinvestment, which promote investment in the painting, saying that the opposite is cool. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->)

Konstantin 12.04.2012 11:26

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And throw Putin

I'm warned not to write here of political appeals.
Posted by a user.
Do not believe ?
Well, as you will .
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However, some stakeholders from the business Artinvestment

If all of us so bad , why come here ?
PS
And what interested stakeholders ? We do not sell paintings .


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