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garry1950 24.03.2012 22:26

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Уважаемые спецы. Прошу высказать мнение по поводу картины.и по возможности дать ей оценку(назвать приблизитнльную цену) Холст, масло, 45х60. Дубляж. Сверху и снизу на загнутых на подрамник участках имеется красочный слой.Видимо укорачивалась. А по бокам, холста не хватило. чтобы затянуть его на подрамник. Подпись имеется, но я наверное на озвучу ее, чтобы не давать возможно ложную установку.Интересно лишь то, как Вы прочитаете!С благодарностью Гарри!

Игорь Гурьев 25.03.2012 00:46

And as you read the sign?
Belov?


From stationery to ACh studied only Grigory Belov, a foreign student in 1836.

This is clearly not appropriate since it is a picture bel eposhnaya, the last inch of the 19th century.


Actually artistic value is very reasonable.

garry1950 25.03.2012 06:11

Guriev , Igor, thanks! I also read through a Belov. and in front , as if "B".
Dear Igor! A moderation for me and for you can be " two different things ." Please share your view about the " moderate thin. The value of " <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ! With deep gratitude and respect for Harry!

Игорь Гурьев 25.03.2012 07:47

In general, the picture makes a strange impression .

Then as if someone wrote a palette in his hand lady .

In this form ( in crinolines , pancake ) paintings have not been contacted then.
It was possible to get dirty .

Look avtoportet comrade . Dzhentilleski Artemisia , who lived a little earlier .
Her exhibition is being held exactly at the Museum of Maillol .

Toinen 25.03.2012 10:31

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor ; 2038101"
As if someone later wrote a palette in his hand lady .

In this form ( in crinolines , pancake ) paintings have not been contacted then.
It was possible to get dirty .


In this case , it seems to me , the artist has written a formal portrait , and not the work of the artist and the palette here is an accessory , the speaker of the professional affiliation of the character.

garry1950 25.03.2012 19:59

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 2038131)
In this case , it seems to me , the artist has written a formal portrait , and not the work of the artist and the palette here is an accessory , the speaker of the professional affiliation of the character .

In my opinion, not at all impossible that the artist himself did not know how to draw the left hand and gave her to hold the palette ! ?

Artforboy 25.03.2012 20:06

A very interesting portrait, head detail was discharged . But the left hand is kind of spoils the whole it is not finished or did not want to. Yes, and the signature of weird , in the 19th century seems to have not been contacted by such large letters. The impression that the student wrote, and maybe the artist herself wrote a lefty and the signature later ...

Toinen 25.03.2012 20:42

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Сообщение от "Artforboy; 2038621 '
Yes, and the signature of weird, in the 19th century seems to have not been contacted by such large letters ...
signature later ...


I do not agree!
Signature is absolutely authentic!

garry1950 25.03.2012 23:54

Toinen, dear!
Please Uncover all the secrets.
related to the authenticity of signatures.

Toinen 26.03.2012 00:07

Dear garry1950, there are no secrets!
Application time signature coincides with the time of the painting.


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