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I-V 10.02.2012 00:44

Portrait of the photo (next Dovlatov)
 
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Once upon a time, reading the memoirs of Vladimir Solovyov Dovlatov, I saw a photograph the portrait. The photograph (in addition to the portrait)) imprinted itself Dovlatov, the mayor of New York (as his name was forgotten, but are all present in his office) and someone else whose name I also forgot. Perhaps someone from the newspaper "The New American," which the mayor just the same holding. But is not the point.

We would like to understand (to know), whose portrait of hands in a luxurious frame behind the masters now. I understand that the photo taken by me from the site http://www.sergeidovlatov.com/new-york.html terribly small and also black, but still ...

I think the portrait is conceived quite original composition that can be put on the trail.
For a start I would like to find a school (Europe or America?) And approx. the time of its creation. Perhaps the story - because portrait of the characters seem to be united in some common action. I assume that the portrait might have got into the office of mayor from any museum during.

In short, if someone has the desire to give their suggestions on this occasion - I would appreciate it. Any versions and guesses are welcome. To tell the truth, I'd like to know who the author of this portrait? I look forward to your help, my friends <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Photo 2:
If anyone has this book, then it can be somewhat more (but not too much)) I consider the picture

fabosch 10.02.2012 01:16

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Сообщение от I-V (Сообщение 1969591)

For a start I would like to find a school (Europe or America?)

IV, well, you just "is not clearing flogs."
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

What there may be Europe, 100%- America.

But the work I do not know

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2012 01:20

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the mayor of New York (as his name was forgotten, but are all present in his office) and someone else

Mayor of NY - Edward Koch, Dovlatov and Boris Metternich had an appointment in March 1981

F-raphy Nina Alovert.

I-V 10.02.2012 01:25

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100%- America.


I agree <! - ~ 1 ~ -> But who fucking who?
(Says the SW. Guriev, Igor))

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2012 01:32

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 1969591)
If anyone has this book, then it can be somewhat more (but not too much)) I consider the photo

And look here:

Victor_art 10.02.2012 02:08

Isabel Bishop (1902 - 1988)
 
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Isabel Bishop, Two Girls, 1935.

Игорь Гурьев 10.02.2012 06:34

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I think someone from the newspaper "The New American," which the mayor just the same holding.

Some members of this forum even had time to publish in this newspaper published a little longer ...

Konstantin 10.02.2012 09:42

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I would very much like to understand ( to know ), whose portrait of hands in a luxurious frame behind the gentlemen present .

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First I would like to find a school (Europe or America ? ) And approx. time of its creation .


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Isabel Bishop, Two Girls, 1935.

That is class.
I love these threads that the issue always seems hopeless , and suddenly - a shot. And right on target.
Yesterday I called the TV transmission of Gordon asked to contact the artist ( maybe invite for discussion ). I advised him to write a question on the forum , they say the easiest and fastest way . Council listened with disbelief , but in vain .

I-V 10.02.2012 15:54

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Here is the class

Victor_art, you are a genius! Bravo! I really did not expect that someone will solve. I thought - complete hopelessness, hung, hung theme, and sink into oblivion archive. And it was so interesting to know! When I book Soloviev-Klepikova read this for a long time looked at the photo. I saw that picture obviously American, but could not quite grasp what kind of people depicted on it? It seems some "guys" from the 18th century - whether the first settlers enthusiastically discussing something in the open air, or someone from the "Team Jefferson", "edit" the Declaration of Independence ... (I seen wigs and cocked hats) < ! - ~ 1 ~ -> That is clear to me was that the case sometime in 18th century America, but now believe that the very picture of the same time I could not.

I stopped, I confess, on the fact that it is a leaf sec. floor. 19th century on the subject of the Amer. history. That's so ... No version of the author's name in my head did not come. Moreover, I also could not assume that it will be in 1935, Elizabeth Bishop - "Two girls" from the era of the Great Depression! <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Incredibly fun and so cool that you are so quickly unraveled the mystery. These experts are only on our forum, I am absolutely sure!

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 1970091"
I love these threads that the issue always seems hopeless, and suddenly - a shot. And right on target.

Yes - it's very nice, I agree. I still love it when a tiny, barely discernible in the photograph the picture, suddenly appears in all its splendor and beauty. Some absolutely incredible feeling when you experience this, in common parlance - buzz <! - ~ 1 ~ -> Thank you, Mr Victor_art! Thank you all! <! - ~ 1 ~ ->


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