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IrinaC 15.01.2009 03:54

Degas
 
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Early in October 1872 ... Renee and Edgar Degas left Paris and arrived in London from which were to have sailed to America. They visited the gallery of Durand-Ruelle on New Bond Street. The more considered the British Degas painting, was the more confident in my assumptions, that the French painters soon will occupy a leading place in the history of painting, it is the opinion of his friends with him did not share, excluding a Pissarro.
  A month later, the brothers arrived in Liverpool, where the sea off in New York, on his way to New Orleans. Degas was under the impression of sleeping cabins steamboat :.".. wonderful invention .. You can sleep in a normal bed, you can even put their shoes outside the door that they cleaned .. "

  November 11 brothers arrived in New Orleans, where they were met by numerous relatives. Family Degas took an enormous house on Esplanade Avenue, owned a plantation and was well provided
Later, Degas told artdileru Ambroizu Vollard story about Fontelle, blacks with a family plantation.

"This switch was dissatisfied with his name and once claimed as the abolition of slavery, the" Monsieur "Fontell went straight to the city, where ordered vizitnyye cards:
Charles Brutus,
color free man.
Then this free man ran ran to the estate, to have time for dinner to serve his Lord "


Degas lived in the house of his brother, soon began to paint portraits of each family member, but found it difficult, no one seriously did not belong to his work, the children ran, jumped, and just quietly he could paint a portrait of his brother's wife Renee, Estelle, she was blind.

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Degas in Louisiana is considering ".. villas of different styles. Painted in white, magnolia, orange and banana trees, the Negroes in their national dress and white children in their black hands .. brilliant light came into my eyes"

He looked Orleans women and acknowledged that they have charm, and slavery did not spoil their izyaschestva.
The beauty of black people had a profound effect on Degas, he wrote in his letter Tiso: "The World of Black - a gift of color, but I do not have time for this study. I want to go to Paris"

But the world of blacks still influenced his work: those muscular legs ballet dancers, laundresses hands against the backdrop of flickering gas lamps, gray-white walls

Degas decided to return to Paris in January, but suddenly he had a new idea to go to New Orleans cotton mill to write some stories. He was familiar with the rich spinners from England, which has an art gallery in Manchester, and he thought that the latter may be interested in this painting from nature. Three months later he wrote to working versions of the picture and in the spring of 1973 he returned to Paris with their "laundresses.

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Meister 15.01.2009 10:12

what you prefer from the work of Edgar Degas: pastels, oil or sculpture?

IrinaC 15.01.2009 16:55

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 188726)
and that you prefer from the works of Degas: pastels, oil or sculpture?

By the sculpture Degas came almost blind, and the bed he has a pretty interesting and it had the pictures not in its pure form, the body can be painted in pastels and foot tempera or pastel with watercolor or pastel, and blotches of oil, gouache
Cyril Syzransky asked what the artist establishes Shishkin bed, I'd find a way to fix, which was used by Degas, I will look for a time. This way he took over from svoego friend and artist who was both a chemist

Кирилл Сызранский 15.01.2009 17:03

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Сообщение от IrinaC (Сообщение 189566)
Kirill Syzransky asked what the artist establishes Shishkin bed

No, Cyril Syzransky asked about the soil. It is more important. "Fix" pastel fixatives. Now from the spray.

IrinaC 15.01.2009 17:15

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 189586)
No, Cyril Syzransky asked about the soil. It is more important. "Fix" pastel fixatives. Now from the spray.

About the ground do not know, but about securing, kotoroe sohranilo bright pastels by Degas, look:
"Degas did not recognize the commercial locks and a lot of time experimenting with fixative for pastels, he enjoyed casein fishes glue, a mixture of rubber and casein.
Retainer basis on which he stood is rubber. The invention belongs to Luigi Chialiva and is still a secret. Any information is welcome "

nikola 15.01.2009 23:00

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Soil for pastels and is a means of fixing.
     Bed rubbed into the surface covered with a colored ground with the addition of abrasive, sometimes painted using sandpaper
  (my best) ancient painted on specially treated leather.
Imprint bed does not make sense, certainly spoil the color and velvety material. Record in the event that work
imposing color on the color. (fix bottom layer).
Victor G. Mogilevich, for many years worked this material,
not recorded. Bed and without fixing one of the most durable techniques. (Color does not change the quality)
Several papers V. Mogilevich.

IrinaC 15.01.2009 23:04

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Сообщение от nikola (Сообщение 189846)
Soil for pastels and is a means of fixing.
     Bed rubbed into the surface covered with a colored ground with the addition of abrasive, sometimes painted using sandpaper
  (my best) ancient painted on specially treated leather.
Imprint bed does not make sense, certainly spoil the color and velvety material. Record in the event that work
imposing color on the color. (fix bottom layer).
Victor G. Mogilevich, for many years worked this material,
not recorded. Bed and without fixing one of the most durable techniques. (Color does not change the quality)
Several papers V. Mogilevich.


This is a pastel? Very nice!
I will not argue with you, nicola, artists to speak differently about the bed, and its consolidation.

nikola 15.01.2009 23:50

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 188726)
and that you prefer from the works of Degas: pastels, oil or sculpture?

I prefer Degas.
And what is it like butter Degas?

IrinaC 16.01.2009 00:25

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Сообщение от nikola (Сообщение 189926)
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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 188726)
and that you prefer from the works of Degas: pastels, oil or sculpture?

I prefer Degas.
And what is it like butter Degas?

The second picture is not Degas.
This is just a model, who posed for Degas in "The Absinthe Drinkers"


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