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Alpha1147 06.12.2011 13:47

FG Toropov, help assess the still life
 
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All welcome.
In the hands of a given work of art, with two expert opinions about the authenticity.


More specifically: the artist Thomas Toropov Gavrilovic, the picture in 1854.

Alpha1147 06.12.2011 13:49

More pictures
 
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Second Opinion on the Art Consulting

Alpha1147 07.12.2011 01:09

Yes, it can generally do not hurry.
:shy:>

Konstantin 07.12.2011 09:59

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Сообщение от Alpha1147 (Сообщение 1879591)
Yes, it can generally do not rush.

Charge you for some reason, removed their answers, but his doubts had every right to express.
Here for comparison:

Alpha1147 07.12.2011 12:45

Here 's a thing - you to assess the authenticity spent a few minutes - even for comparison ( this is generally why ? ) Provided an example.

I certainly understand that you say that the Art Consulting - utter nonsense , and their expertise in general or about chem.Navernoe because there are sitting mediocrity , this is understandable.

But why, then, from this organization ( which is understandable fuckers sitting ) has received an offer to purchase for $ 35,000 (a total of four such proposals , but this is the fastest and smallest )?

If so , they offer money , personally I have questions about the authenticity simply can not arise. I have another question arose - and how much it can really cost you, because what is offered to me - maybe , baryzhnoy , at the price .

In short, if you can take for granted (even spherical vacuum) that is a real picture , not fake. And if you can just knock out judgments about stoimosti.A then call her at least ten times a fake ...

uriart 07.12.2011 12:50

Alpha1147, if you actually offered the money (which I deeply doubt it!), You would rejoice, and give.

After the second time and will not offer these!

Konstantin 07.12.2011 13:13

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Сообщение от Alpha1147; 1879761"
can you take for granted (even spherical vacuum) that is a real picture , not fake. And if you can just knock out judgments about stoimosti.A then call her at least ten times a fake ..

That's just it?
Fake your picture , no one called , except you.
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Сообщение от Alpha1147; 1879591"
Yes it can no Toropov

Comparison with the other picture Toropov , telling all sides. Before you write something more - a question for you :
- Which of your picture is better? One is your , the second was sold at a large western auction .

Alpha1147 07.12.2011 15:51

How do you say - in my personal understanding , if there are justifiable doubts as to authenticity, these doubts can be expressed in one word , which I used , but for some reason you reacted angrily enough , except that I now so no one called . This meant, but in a milder forme.No in my opinion this is a purely personal one and the same.


As for the examples given by you - then of course there is a big difference is immediately obvious . It can not even discuss it. The question , in my opinion in the other - why not admit the idea that the picture presented me too Toropova hand , it is also bylo.Vot loud and all at once swept aside ...

Konstantin 07.12.2011 16:06

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Сообщение от Alpha1147; 1879961"
Regarding the above example, you - then of course there is a big difference is immediately obvious .

Now you will understand the price range that I sounded. Laid me painting was exhibited at Christies in 2009 with an estimate (7252 - 10 153 USD, 5307 - 7430 EUR) and did not sell . Do you think your in this case can cost three /four times more? And your picture is much " easier " to do the same. Art Consulting subscribed to our database auction sales [/URL], and this means that you can in good conscience give them a picture of a 35 000 $.

Alpha1147 07.12.2011 16:20

Thanks for the info.
I would seriously think about.


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