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Тютчев 28.10.2011 21:23

Children find out?
 
kids found a way

A child in St. Petersburg from the window of the school office directly during class jumped 12-year-old boy. Death of a child struck by the hopelessness and absurdity. Meanwhile, psychiatrists are alarmed number of child suicides has been steadily increasing.

In the 163rd Central School District, where on the eve of the window during class threw a 12-year-old student of class 6 Dima Factory, now run by psychologists. This was reported by "Rosbalt" school director Lidia Antonova.

Voice of the director completely dead. Clearly, this is a huge human tragedy and the present state of emergency for quite worthy of the St. Petersburg school. According to Lydia Antonova, school investigators are now working to try to find out the reasons which led the boy to suicide, as well as psychologists. It is obvious that such an act - the death of a classmate in front of shestiklashek, including a brother - could not but affect the psyche of young children. The Director stressed that the contacts with psychologists occur only at the request of parents and children.

No details about the identity of the deceased boy and his family for obvious reasons, the director refused to communicate. However, it became known as "Rosbalt" family factory (mom, dad, older brother and a twin brother who died of Dima) was considered quite safe - at least on the account as problematic in the bodies of trusteeship, it was not.

However, experts say, the criterion of "problematic and safely" highly conditional: experts define well-being of the guardianship of the family, based on personal subjective factors, such as for the welfare of one is the normal food set in the refrigerator, but for others - the presence of each individual family member sleeping or working place.
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"Some people seem to oranges in the fridge top income. And the other family can sleep with their children in one bed," sit "on a potato and still be friendly - say experts. - Here indeed: in each cabin - his rattles, so each family drama must deal individually and thoroughly. "

Meanwhile, just a week ago - October 21 - Health Minister Zurab chief psychiatrist Kekelidze has addressed the need to enter the public school prevention program aimed at preventing suicide among children. According to Kekelidze, participation in the program must take teachers, employees of the Interior and the family, and, this prevention, experts say, should be carried out starting from the elementary grades. The reason for that psychiatrists believe the frequent cases of nervous disorders among children and teen suicide rates rise.

According to statistics, in recent years, the number of child suicides and attempted suicides increased by 35-37%. In Russia, from 1990 to 2010, there were about 800,000 suicides. Our country is one of the first places in the world in terms of children's voluntary departure from life (23.5 cases per 100 000 population).
Most often, these efforts are taking (often, alas, is ending his death) adolescents aged 10 to 14 years, and, according to experts, most (almost 80%) is by no means children from disadvantaged families, and quite successful home boys .
 
"Every month, our doctors go on 3-5 cases of suicide attempts among children and adolescents - says psychiatrist highest category of specialized ambulance station St. Petersburg Oleg Aronovich. - By experience I can say that in adolescents, unlike adults people attempt suicide - is often affective reactions, that is impulsive, spontaneous act in response to a strong external stimulus. Most of these suicides naive, childish, for example, drink a bottle of ink or eat a dozen pills analgina. But there is a very severe cases that end with no intensive care bed, and a cemetery. "

According to the psychiatrist, often on the move the kids go to protest the insult to someone or from a desire to attract attention. The worst thing that guys do not understand that joke to death, "a little bit die" can not - will not be going back.

"I still remember the horror stories many years ago when a teenager because of unrequited love drank a bottle of well-known cleaning water pipes - says the psychiatrist. - Doctors and toxicologists, psychiatrists literally wept: the liquid in front of the girl ate the inside, to help her was no one in power at the same time she was conscious and said she only wanted to scare her Vasya or Pete ...".

Among the main causes of child suicides are leading a quarrel or misunderstanding of the parents 'unhappy' love, as well as conflicts with school teachers and bad grades. Recently there were even such reasons as "excommunication" of computer games or unwillingness of parents to buy a new phone, toy, fashion (before, as noted by the doctors, they were cats, dogs and fish, birds).

According to psychiatrists, against the background of spontaneous fact of suicide warning signal are expressed by the child the thought of death, "that you weep, when I will not." Failed suitsidniki say that first fantasized about the future care of life, and then, if not with understanding and support from loved ones, already being the terrible fantasies into reality.

In the case of the Dima factory is not simple: in some sources, the cause of action alleged the child was voiced by two teachers in the quarter and ostensibly it was after the publicity of the fact that the boy went to the window. However, in this version of the affective, spontaneous suicide does not fit the alleged suicide note in which he asks not to blame the teachers in his deed. Therefore, care of the boy's life prepared, and it was not an impulsive reaction. In addition, according to parents, kids in the family is not blamed for poor grades, were due to performance is tolerated.

It is also possible version of an unhappy love affair: According to experts, it is often young people are prone to such a public, outrageous shares to attract the attention of the object of his love.

"Often, children, young people like to" play of passion "in front of everyone. I remember there was a case on the psychological faculty of St. Petersburg State University (then Leningrad) - recalls a graduate psihfaka Larissa Larskaya. - Our 17-year-old classmate (note, by the way - future professional "razrulivatel problems," ie, psychologist) went out the window the audience, from the third floor, right in the lecture. Then it turned out that the cause was a classmate, who considered the young man too "drab and uninteresting." So he decided to show such way his originality. "

What actually happened, find out by investigators. However, it is clear that children need special attention from the adults in the first place - their parents. Children need to know that there are no unsolvable problems, and that any problem can be solved, preferably together. But it is also clear that not all parents are willing to listen to all complaints of their children, and yet you want to participate from an early age.
 
Zurab Kekelidze believes that teaching the psychology of the individual must have in elementary school, from third grade until graduation. Head of department of environmental and social problems of mental health psychiatric center Serbsky Polozhii Boris said that specialists will present its version of the program for one year and is already prepared drafts of the textbook, but on the first tangible results of the prevention of suicides among children will only be a few years.

However, many are skeptical of attempts to teach students of psychology. Much more important, experts say, the atmosphere of love and understanding at home, the family, as well as normal, no nervous atmosphere in the school. In any case, the child should be a place gdeyu he felt safe.

Marina Boitsova

More information: http://www.rosbalt.ru/piter/2011/10/27/905832.html

Тихая Сапа 28.10.2011 21:37

If you have not bought a cake
      And the movies are not taken with the evening
      Parents need to take offense
      And to go hatless in the cold night .
      But do not just
      Wander through the streets,
      And in the thick dark
      Wood to go.
      There, you just wolf
      Hungry to meet,
      And, of course , quickly
      He eats you .
      That's when Dad and Mama will know ,
      Cry , weep and run too .
      And the rush to buy a cake,
      And in a movie with a
      Take you in the evening .


Tyutchev, why start such topics in the forum for art? Kids 'm sorry, but this did not seem to have gathered here .

Peter 28.10.2011 21:52

Lack of love and understanding at home, the family is a key fraza.ostalnoe a consequence, combined with the enormous flow of information (often on a negative basis), with whom the adult person is not always good.

NATA NOVA 28.10.2011 21:59

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1823571)
Tyutchev, why start such topics in the forum for art? Kids'm sorry, but this did not seem to have gathered here.
     

agree!

In general, I propose to prohibit chernushnye topics and news website.
even from the names of those taking aback ..
Well, the truth, why?
Well, contrary to the same ..

Peter 28.10.2011 22:09

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1823571)
       


Tyutchev why start such topics in the forum for art? Kids 'm sorry, but this did not seem to have gathered here .

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1823611)
agree!
In general, I propose to prohibit chernushnye topics and news website. even from the names of those taking aback .. Well, the truth, why ? Well, contrary to the same ..

Oh, OK, we will discuss gay pride parades ! Question .. sad , but children are our future , and the trend is a bad ...

Тихая Сапа 28.10.2011 22:24

I'm talking about gay pride parades subject not getting up, too, in my opinion to what it is ...
May still about art?

Кирилл Сызранский 28.10.2011 22:41

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1823631)
Oh, OK, we will discuss gay parades !..

Who makes you something to discuss any gay pride parades?

Talk about art, investing in art.

Ksteit, the subject of gay parade in Moscow I opened here this message I
and also invented a joke, by the way.
:D>

Тютчев 28.10.2011 22:49

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1823571)
Tyutchev, why start such topics in the forum for art? Kids 'm sorry, but this did not seem to have gathered here .

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1823611)
agree!
In general, I propose to prohibit chernushnye topics and news website. even from the names of those taking aback .. Well, the truth, why ? Well, contrary to the same ..

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1823641)
I'm talking about gay pride parades subject not getting up , too, in my opinion to what it is ... May still about art ?

Read this :
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Chatter Talk about everything that goes beyond the main theme of the forum .
I hope everything is clear ?

The forum set of sections and a large number of topics about art ! And if not for what would suit you , create your own and go ... What's the problem ?

Santa 28.10.2011 23:47

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa ; 1823571"
Tyutchev, why start such topics in the forum on the art

Yet strangely enough, I swear .. (just warning you that hurt - one in the mind no) :rolleyes:>
Do not like the topic , and you can not go into it, find a topic in mind (they are a great many here ) and discuss getting a great pleasure ..
(I am here , absolutely not interested in contemporary art, and I do not climb in these subjects with comments and discussion ) ..

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa ; 1823641"
may still about art ?

Problems with the themes of art - no, their weight ..
You can create and discuss their that close again :)>
Only very strange that the themes of art, not very much discussed and :confused:>
You can see the statistics ...
R.S. "Policy" has already been sent , in the garden t.s :D>, and less to go into it did not ..
The question is, why ? :rolleyes:>

NATA NOVA 29.10.2011 00:50

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1823631)
Oh, OK, we will discuss gay parades !..

but it is a pure positive in your, Peter?


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