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Stuart 25.10.2011 17:13

About restoration techniques (Separation /Transfer)
 
Dear experts,

Tell me please if there is such a technology as the restoration of the division of the canvas, that is, there is work on canvas /oil on both sides that says oil! So I would like to share these works. As far as I know may be transferred from one to another , but the essence of this technique does not allow to transfer the work that is written on both sides. Share information , is it possible at all? ?

Canvas is thin, is strong enough . Primer on my both sides.

I was searching the internet, nothing in this technique, no .

Thank you in advance !

Santa 25.10.2011 21:41

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Сообщение от Stuart; 1819663"
, is it possible at all ???

In theory - yes.
Almost (technologically ) - daunting ..

At the end of the 19th century have been similar cases in the Hermitage - Painting flake from the base of the soil with a layer of colorful , then transferred to a new canvas .
Labor-intensive , but possible.

From the viewpoint of exhibiting these things are placed in the so-called " windows " that would review carried out with 2 sides (this is, of course , is inherent in museum exhibits ) , for the walls - this is not an option.


Stuart, something like this :)>

I-V 25.10.2011 22:01

Get close to the ground and colorful layer on the reverse side , without disturbing the other painting , which is on it ( back) is , it seems almost impossible. Sometimes , a canvas is separated from the soil by moisture, but again, in your case it painless for the back of the painting it will not pass . Especially, any other mechanical separation of the canvas from the soil and red . the layer.

I think this is impossible in principle. Unless it's two separate tightly glued together the canvas. Then everything would be much easier. And so , it seems , has not yet invented a way to evenly separate threads of the canvas into two halves. In any case, the restorers is not available (though not sure about the Chinese :)>)

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Сообщение от Santa; 1819873"
From the viewpoint of exhibiting these things are placed in the so-called " windows " that would review was carried out with 2 sides

That's right. And if any pleasure expensive, have to decide - which party is more important for the audience or to demonstrate the two sides alternately .

Santa 25.10.2011 22:20

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Сообщение от IV; 1819933"
if any pleasure expensive, have to decide - which party is more important for the viewer or demonsrirovat both sides alternately

Yeah, well, if you can show both sides :)>
And , there are times when you need to decide what is more expensive to you , if there is a question of keeping the subject in general ..
Which of the two sides will be hidden t.s "forever" , ie, glued to canvas.
Here in this situation and come " moments of painful hesitation " .. :eek:>

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Сообщение от IV; 1819933"
to get close to the ground and colorful layer on the reverse side , without disturbing the other painting , which is on it ( back) is , it seems almost impossible .

Theoretically, perhaps ..
There t.s copyrights of use (in theory)
In practice ( in my memory) , this one did not do it .. - the division of the canvas -sided painting ..
In general , the question of Stuart, really interesting :)>

Peter 25.10.2011 22:40

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Сообщение от Santa (Сообщение 1819973)
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In general, the question of Stuart, really interesting :)>


If you prefer to sell both sides!
:D>

Santa 25.10.2011 23:25

Peter,

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1820013)
If it is desired to sell both sides!

this desire is understandable and explainable :)>

I had a similar laceration :shy:> true in my case - it was the graphics ..

Stuart 25.10.2011 23:53

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Сообщение от Santa; 1819873"
From the viewpoint of exhibiting these things are placed in the so-called " windows ",

I believe that at the moment is the best way to keep both sides ! .

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Сообщение от Santa; 1820103"
this desire is understandable and explainable

Subject sufficiently acute, because more and more frequently such work.

Particularly common among artists of the Soviet period, with 50g . ,

Peter 26.10.2011 00:01

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Сообщение от Santa (Сообщение 1820103)
Peter,

this desire is understandable and explainable :)>
I had a similar laceration :shy:> true in my case - it was the graphics ..

There is nothing easier . Great price is multiplied by a party to any dva.Bez division. :D> The difficulty arises rather when selling to different persons. :)>

Stuart 26.10.2011 00:06

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1820173)
could not be easier.
Great price is multiplied by a party to any dva.Bez division.
The difficulty arises rather when selling to different people.


Ahhah) :D> That's it!

Santa 26.10.2011 00:10

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Сообщение от Peter (Сообщение 1820173)
The difficulty arises rather when selling to different people.

That is the whole zakovyrka :)>

Virtually - two (work), actually - one :(> :)>


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