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Stuart 24.10.2011 21:48

Nataniel Ziehel, help assess the pattern
 
Good day!


There is a picture by German portraitist Nataniel Ziehel.
That's actually like to find out is whether the real value of this work, and what kind?.
At work, there is only a signature.
N. Ziehel, year unknown.


Thank you in advance.

Игорь Гурьев 25.10.2011 01:26

In my opinion, this reproduction is pasted onto the canvas.

Stuart 25.10.2011 01:47

Guriev , Igor, I just had some questions about its authenticity , but visiting a museum employee (judge ) ( question of evaluation was not) expert on "words " provided information to ponder , assuring that the work is consistent with technology of the time in which the artist lived .

Carefully examined under a lens , paper glued on the small canvas, and covered with varnish.

Previous owner of this work argues that this picture of her grandmother bought another in 1914.

Should I invest in the restoration and the official examination ?

Игорь Гурьев 25.10.2011 03:07

Comrade Stewart, once again, this is likely to reproduce, glued to canvas.

Stuart 25.10.2011 04:26

Guriev, Igor,

Thank you for your urgent response, entrust your opinion!

sergejnowo 25.10.2011 07:23

Stuart, the correct name is written as an artist : Nathaniel SICHEL (1843-1907).
Indeed much like a reproduction, though not a fact.
Take a decent photograph , say the lips or eyes in the portrait of him can be accurately say a painting or a reproduction.
If this painting:
Formal examination is not necessary, it is not accepted at this level , and , and so everything is clear.
Should I invest in the restoration ?
No, of course , can be cleaned and not fact.
Must sell in Germany. At the auction will take with the launch of 500 - 1000 euro , and then as God wills .

Кирилл Сызранский 25.10.2011 09:47

Цитата:

Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 1818793)
correct name is written as an artist: Nathaniel SICHEL

But read "Zihel," hence, I think, and it

Цитата:

Сообщение от Stuart (Сообщение 1818353)
Nataniel Ziehel

, although the first visible sign "S".
:)>

macas 25.10.2011 10:14

Interesting fact the depicted girl is EVA: http://www.evesmag.com/sichel.htm. Polish painter Emile Eisman-Semenowsky also painted her:
http://www.artrenewal.org/pages/arti...?artistid=7046

Stuart 25.10.2011 13:45

sergejnowo,

>> Stuart, the artist's name spelled correctly so: Nathaniel SICHEL (1843-1907).

Wrote to a read).
I confess!


The picture will be soon!

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Larger photo, a little blurry, it's better not work!
Photograph of me no ..
:D>

Stuart 25.10.2011 16:56

Larger photo, a little blurry, it's better not work!
Photograph of me no ..
:D>


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