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rombig 21.09.2011 18:29

Watercolor "Grandma", the code E2
 
help to understand the signature ...

zampolit 21.09.2011 20:24

Judging by the signs - the maid of honor.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.09.2011 20:26

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Сообщение от rombig (Сообщение 1779693)
code E2

Such a code on the bow was in
Catherine II [/URL].

Игорь Гурьев 22.09.2011 02:17

A generally well written, though it no longer smells of mid-19th century.

Wladzislaw 22.09.2011 18:41

As far as I understand it, a monogram - a large cipher graduate of Smolny. Studded with portraits of some of the Empress, such forms of awards there . Several strange that the blue ribbon , but I can see the images on plain strips of ciphers , and maybe tape to the portrait.

The lady can not be maid of honor because of their age , with which were unmarried girls . It is not excluded , of course, that it may be chamber- maid of honor or state -queen. But the maid of honor at the Imperial. Catherine , I do not believe. Date or you can beg. 19, or 1860- E . Unless, of course , it's a real portrait and not a modern thistle .

P.S. And the collar is extremely strange .

rombig 23.09.2011 01:04

portrait in my opinion .. this dress with faleroy on a granny in principle, everything is clear about the code and about a medallion with a portrait ... http://www.hellopiter.ru/Smolnyj_institute.html

and that the signature colleagues?
any opinions?

Added after 4 minutes
first four letters of Berg?
or Borg?

Сима 23.09.2011 07:27

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 1781793)

P.S.
And the collar is extremely strange.


Why strange?
About this.
NK
Zagryazhskaya died in 1837, only I do not think that "grandma" - Zagryazhskaya.
Just an example of an old maid of honor.
On the other hand, this is the second portrait of her - completely different interpretation of the person, without sharp features, a much softer.

Frunze 23.09.2011 21:29

In the ladies two characters.
The first sign of Elizabeth's maids of honor.
Second, the code of Catherine the Great.
Watercolor can be attributed to the first half of the 19th century.
Most likely it was the maid of honor at two sovereign.
The old woman looked about 70 so it is .....

Wladzislaw 24.09.2011 01:02

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Сообщение от Sima (Сообщение 1782303)
Why strange?
About this.
NK
Zagryazhskaya died in 1837


To me he seemed to those when I was writing.
Hence, the normal :)> I had to look through the pictures.

раскатов 24.09.2011 11:57

It is believed that the author of this watercolor Philip Berger Osipovich (P. Berger -1783-1867).
Work is in the Tretyakov Gallery.


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