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Мира	12.09.2011 18:42

Presumably, a student of Petrov-Vodkin

Dear experts!
Much to ask !

I would like to know your opinion about this picture.
Provenance is missing, has been bought by me in New York in the junk shop , mid-80s .

Oil. Canvas pasted on board , the state - below average. The hand on his shoulder that stained with : a black horizontal stripe , a part of the paint layer is lost.
The main reason for this treatment - paint flaking . Should I give a picture of a restoration ?

50h29

This work has already shown in another branch, spoke about her Guriev , Igor and Cyril Syzran . Unfortunately , I can not move a piece of dialogue.
Cyril suggested that a possible author - Golubyatnikov, student Petrov-Vodkin.

artcol

12.09.2011 18:59

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Сообщение от World (Сообщение 1769303)

And what is the amount you risk paying for restoration work ? 5 tr ? More? How much work will look like after restoration? What will be its value after restoration without attribution ?

Мира	12.09.2011 19:05

It seems to me better to deal with the authorship, and then restored.

artcol

12.09.2011 19:18

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Сообщение от World (Сообщение 1769333)

I think it's better to deal with the authorship, and then restore.

This is a Well as you see fit, I only expressed my opinion.

You simply asked:

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Should I give a picture of a restoration?

And other issues in your post, I did not see.

Мира	12.09.2011 19:21

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1769373)

And other issues in your post, I have not seen.

You are right.

Question: who is the artist?

Игорь Гурьев

13.09.2011 00:10

Who the artist ?
Here in this and the whole question.

And there is no satisfactory answer to this question is impossible to imagine .

I came across a couple of times made under the influence of Petrov-Vodkin's absolutely wonderful things , and they include the above .
Moreover, it is closer in style to the most Petrov-Vodkin.
But who is it?
God only knows.

And it's not as actual painting, there were a CPV of similar level .

As for restoration, it is not very high prices can be at least: to strengthen the paint layer , cutting toned eye - and fairly .

K-Maler

13.09.2011 00:29

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Сообщение от World; 1769303"

Should I give a picture of a restoration ?

It is, she is not bad ... And the fact that its someone has pasted on a board (perhaps wanting to fix ), could mean that this " someone" knew what she stoyuschaya ... There should be just a little to fix the gelatin layer of paint and clean the lead edge of the order . And do not bother her particularly , do not remove from the board and turn over to another canvas and build upon ...

artcol

13.09.2011 00:46

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 1769743)

Cleaning can also help answer the question of authorship .

Santa

13.09.2011 00:52

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 1769743)

They should just fix a little colorful gelatin

Gelatin, as a means to strengthen the painting is not very welcome ..

It is best to use the sturgeon, rabbit glue ..

Мира	13.09.2011 04:29

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Сообщение от Santa (Сообщение 1769803)

It is best to use the sturgeon, rabbit glue ..

Directly from the rabbit make glue?
:confused:>

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