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Мира 06.09.2011 08:50

Saryan?
 
Dear experts , hello!


As a guest of one American family in Queens, the picture in question : Sawyer , Gropper , and some abstractions and, suddenly, in the corner hangs a surprise.
Remembering your wonderful forum and asked for permission to remove the lady from the frame and photograph . What an artist she knows , in addition, she deaf , the device does not use.

Gouache on cardboard.
On the back of a semi- erased pencil name "bazaar" 42h60 and the date 1910.
It is evident that someone awkwardly trying to trace the letters , some blurred .

Please share your impression on this work, if you do not complicate .
Is it possible that this Saryan ?
Actually, I do not believe in miracles , and suddenly ...

Игорь Гурьев 06.09.2011 14:51

Well, it's probably the 1960s, a Soviet artist.

By Saryan has nothing to do.

tivat 06.09.2011 16:47

World, there is a photo back of the Uzbeks?
Board meets in 1910?


link

Кирилл Сызранский 06.09.2011 17:02

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Сообщение от World; 1760833"
Is it possible that this Saryan ?
Actually, I do not believe in miracles , and suddenly ...

Theme of Saryan , 2 work , the Egyptian period.
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Сообщение от Samvel; 837 051"
Dear Alenka, except for chem. analysis , there are many wonderful things (factors) on the examination of paintings by M. Saryan, which is not you , not the " aces " to fake not vkurse . I want one of these secrets to reveal to the master of fake pictures too did not work . The fact that Martiros S. s1907 to 1914, led the notebook diary with a detailed recording of all his works sold and donated , so that no new unknown paintings of this period , when they appear , not one self respecting examiner confirms .


Мира 06.09.2011 22:19

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor (Сообщение 1761143)
Well, it's probably the 1960s , a Soviet artist .

Perhaps , in any case , I think, not a remake . That apartment was filmed in the '50s , about the same time bought the picture , many old sticker ACA Galleries. Above the piano in the living room hangs a work that seemed interesting, but the pictures turned out blurred , I will be there again , I will try again to photograph and show here , if you do not mind .

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Worldwide , there is a photo back of the Uzbeks ? Board meets in 1910 ?
Vs . tivat, thanks for the link . Actually, rather than cardboard and construction paper , whether - I do not know .

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The fact that Martiros S. s1907 to 1914, led a notebook , a diary which recorded in detail on all of its sold and donated works ,
Is it possible to find this blog on the net?

To all who responded - thank you very much !

Santa 06.09.2011 22:44

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Board meets in 1910 ?

tivat, my question is, do not consider a rude .. :rolleyes:>
But, as the eye can determine the age of cardboard ?
Agree, a strange question you asked :confused:>
In the tone of your question , it begs the appropriate response (hypothetically , of course ) :D>
 - The taste , smell, touch - a cardboard absolutely corresponds to 1910

tivat 06.09.2011 23:50

[QUOTE=Santa; 1761543 ]tivat, my question is, do not consider a rude .. :rolleyes:>

1) But, as the eye can determine the age of cardboard ?


2) Agree, a strange question you asked :confused:>
In the tone of your question , it begs the appropriate response (hypothetically , of course ) :D>
 - The taste , smell, touch - a cardboard absolutely corresponds to 1910

1 ) Santa, well, what is it rude ? On this rude , like, it does not. Why should you be rude to me ? I gave birth ? :)>
The answer is simple . First, you want to see the time stamp on the material. Whether it is paper, cardboard, canvas board ... Why continue the conversation, if , for example, snow-white paper , just out of the pack ? If the material 100 years , the same color of the paper can not be white. You also do not explain it ... Of course , you can artificially " put time stamps ." But it usually pops out during the inspection or have expertise.
I answered your question?

2) Never tasted cardboard in 1910. Is it tasty? :)>

Santa 07.09.2011 00:37

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Сообщение от tivat (Сообщение 1761773)
Never tasted cardboard in 1910.
Is it tasty?

If accurate, the 1910s -

tivat 07.09.2011 00:45

Tomorrow definitely try!
Drink better than atsetonchikom?
:)>

Forgive me moderators for severe flooding.
:o>

Pavel 07.09.2011 09:01

Sure it Saryan , and early . As you know, Saryan was classmates Petrov-Vodkin and Pavel Kuznetsov . In his study of color harmony undoubtedly searching with Pavel Kuznetsov , whom they could have poehot in Central Asia to seek his East similar to Matisse and his Tangier .
Etude in itself is good.


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