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polimpa84 29.07.2011 16:18

Signature - a symbol of
 
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Hello!

That such work, X /M is labeled on the plywood, 93h127sm

At the bottom was a lot of scree and the signature is left only

character because of kryleshek and 57

Can anybody seen this?

And it may be a plot?

polimpa84 29.07.2011 16:19

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Кирилл Сызранский 29.07.2011 18:03

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Сообщение от polimpa84 (Сообщение 1723991)
and from signatures remained only

character because of kryleshek

Do you think this is a signature?

Maybe it's the remnants of pagan robes character that baptism in this story takes?

Тихая Сапа 29.07.2011 18:06

Green wings with ribbon and white wings resemble knights helmet plumes, which were crowned with emblems.
The iconography is quite Heralds.
I suspect that the talus was destroyed arms, which were read by contemporaries as a surname.

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Wings usually depicted in pairs , with their position - either directly or profile - depends on the position of the helmet. If the helmet is turned upright, wings outstretched depicted on his helmet , turned in profile , the wings are depicted in parallel, with pointed ends facing backward . On the ancient coats of arms with gorshkovidnye helmets, wings depicting a stylized , more like a board, colored pens or a seated individual feathers. With the development of heraldry and a departure from primitive forms of Gothic wings have become more natural look. The wings are painted in accordance with the tinted shield , and as panel boards , and sometimes repeats the image on it the primary and secondary figures . Sometimes placed between the wings of a minor
coat shape (eg star or rose), depicted in the coat of arms.

Тихая Сапа 29.07.2011 18:18

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Wings usually depicted in pairs , with their position - either directly or profile - depends on the position of the helmet. If the helmet is turned upright, wings outstretched depicted on his helmet , turned in profile , the wings are depicted in parallel, with pointed ends facing backward . On the ancient coats of arms with gorshkovidnye helmets, wings depicting a stylized , more like a board, colored pens or a seated individual feathers. With the development of heraldry and a departure from primitive forms of Gothic wings have become more natural look. The wings are painted in accordance with the tinted shield , and as panel boards , and sometimes repeats the image on it the primary and secondary figures . Sometimes placed between the wings of a minor
coat shape (eg star or rose), depicted in the coat of arms.

polimpa84 29.07.2011 18:32

I thought so too, and that the figures for next time?

If the year, then it hardly written above the signature

or near the bottom or

Maybe I'm wrong

Us-tin 29.07.2011 18:38

The subject recalls "The Baptism of Clovis' ...
Pokopaytes in the Internet ...
What if ...

Тихая Сапа 29.07.2011 18:40

Alas, we'll never know.
The surviving figures could be just the top line on the accompanying label (could be a specified place, a comment, etc.).
Know who would baptize, maybe it could be a clue.

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It is unlikely that Clovis.
Without touching the clothing and surroundings, it seems to me that the young man in a red cloak in the foreground shows a very good reason.
At Clovis did not mention anything.
Must be at least something, or lily dove

polimpa84 29.07.2011 18:59

I bought this painting as a work presumably Johann Michael Rottmayer

but he has years of life 1654-1730, and here I was confused by the numbers 57

But the plot said that this "baptism of Paul," and here I have doubts

I really do not know anything about anything in church affairs and characters

Кирилл Сызранский 29.07.2011 19:17

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Сообщение от polimpa84 (Сообщение 1724221)
I bought this painting as a work presumably Johann Michael Rottmayer

Who is the author suggested, I wonder?

The seller, apparently?

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And on the subject was told that this "baptism of Paul"

It's hard.

Apostle Paul baptizes the bishop.
Hmm ...
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