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tunec33 25.12.2008 20:40

Authorship - Morozov AI (1835-1904)?
 
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I would like to confirm the authorship, as well as understand the extent of the value of this painting.
Author - Morozov AI (Signed "A. Morozov)
"Hunters campfire"
Oil on canvas. 35x47 cm
Good condition.
Stored in the family from before the war, more ranyaya's background is unknown.
Photos (two versions of light) and photo signatures priattacheny.

tunec33 25.12.2008 20:46

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Since 60-ies a picture stored on the mezzanine, along with another "carton", by which apparently, to hang on the wall. This "carrier" cardboard on the back of a signature (already "post-revolutionary") - "A. Morozov. Hunters around the campfire," for which actually makes sense to judge the name ...

Cardboard picture is rather thin, slightly flexible.

Photos of all this here.

SergeiSK 25.12.2008 20:50

tunec33,
By signature in the handbook Solovyov, AI Morozov had a slope of letters in the signature in the other side and put under the signature of a year writing the picture, although the latter is not an argument. Maybe this is another Morozov, the benefit of a common surname?

tunec33 25.12.2008 20:53

There is also a "Soviet" Morozov AI - Full namesake ...

SergeiSK 25.12.2008 20:56

Цитата:

Сообщение от tunec33 (Сообщение 164556)
signature "A. Morozov"

There is such Morozov, correctly. But in 1917, when the canceled the letter "v", he was 15 years old.

tunec33 29.12.2008 19:41

It seems to be no other "pre-revolutionary" Morozov know ...

Or is any early /late work, and so the signature is different?

Comparing with other similar ( "content") paintings:

Rest on haymaking
summer day
Landscape with cottage, thatched
Landscape with trees

I like the manner of this "hunters around the campfire" on AI Morozov, or not?


But maybe it was all modern "Morozov AA" ??... (see for example here)


Where else would be useful to ask these questions? Maybe there are well-known specialists in art? (For example, someone wrote the thesis or a diploma on it, etc.)

SergeiSK 29.12.2008 20:22

tunec33,
In Common rating has twelve Morozov. None of them are not suitable to the authorship of your work for years of life. Well, unless this work is not written by two of them in 15 and 16 years of age. If you think that the last letter is not "v" and "a", it could be Morozov. These years of life is also not suitable. But there Alexey Morozov-Las (Lasso) 1896-1965 GG which could well be the author of your work. Unfortunately I do not familiar with his work and nothing more to say can not. Search and compare his work.

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Сообщение от tunec33 (Сообщение 170076)
Maybe, there are well-known specialists in art?

Certified art there is in this forum. It is strange that they ignore your questions.

tunec33 30.12.2008 16:34

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 170086)
tunec33,
But there Alexey Morozov-Las (Lasso) 1896-1965 GG

He engaged in registration books in the prewar era, wrote a picture - do not know ...

tunec33 13.01.2009 21:02

Is it possible to assess the pattern of the photo "the degree of professionalism" of the artist?

Ie if this is an amateur level, then we can definitely say that the author - just a namesake Morozov.

If you like the "professional", while more complicated because probability of the two "Morozov" professionals in pre-revolutionary times ( "v") is very questionable ... Is it possible in this case as something to compare this picture with these here? To appear or has ceased to exist on suspicion of "early" Morozova, etc.

Does it make sense in such an uncertain authorship order a full examination, or whether it would be a risky waste of money?

SergeiSK 13.01.2009 21:59

Цитата:

Сообщение от tunec33 (Сообщение 187246)
Does it make sense in such an uncertain authorship order a full examination

I think that it is not necessary, because value assessment may exceed the cost of this work.

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Сообщение от tunec33 (Сообщение 187246)
Is it possible to evaluate the picture on the photo "the degree of professionalism" of the artist?

Here is more of a "semi-" may be a graduate of art school or a self-taught talent.


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