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allexx 09.06.2011 23:26

What will be put restorer pastels
 
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Good evening , dear colleagues! Can you please tell me what to expect ( and , accordingly, any task set ) from a restorer ?

Got here this bed , no frame and no glass . Very fragile paper , the crack in the middle of the top , bottom, middle , and bottom right, where the sign - here at all with the signature of the triangle fell off and now on his own. Well, a lot of dust , as I understand it from the pastel pencils during shipping.

That require the conservator - pasted on some basis ? Do nothing , simply press the glass and the frame ? And what of the loose piece with a signature ?

Thank you !

PS Oh, and also, if possible , advise to anyone in Kiev to seek restoration . Thank you !

Пелагея Ларина 10.06.2011 00:35

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 1661563)
Do nothing , simply press the glass and the frame ?

Pressed glass bed do not recommend bed printed on the glass .. I pastelki dressed in thick mats , glass on top - has turned a small gap between pastels and glass .
But the bed cover specials . fixative I would not - the color will change somewhat , and lost a wonderful " fluffy " pastels . But it is my opinion .
Take another look here http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=54741

K-Maler 10.06.2011 01:34

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 1661563)
very fragile paper , the crack above the middle , lower middle , and bottom right, where the sign - here at all with the signature of the triangle fell off and now on his own. Well, a lot of dust , as I understand it from the pastel pencils during shipping.

Stick , apparently , is undesirable because Paper Thin : do not know how it will interact with the adhesive . But the glass , after all , many are advised to press to continue to not crumble . And on the reverse side to enclose something soft , cotton , foam rubber or the like , and less " worry " pastel , do not shake . Ie restore the bed is practically impossible, only dorisovyvat ...

allexx 10.06.2011 01:35

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And what about the torn pieces - than their stick , and how ? And on what basis ? And the cracks ? If you do not push the glass , the pieces themselves do not prizhmutsya , and cracks will be free , their edges may diverge even further. And if you press the glass , the crack did not seem to be expanding , but remains detached piece with a signature . Or maybe ... when I sent pastel , glass was removed. Maybe , tore off a piece does not come off during shipping , but was torn , just under the glass ?

Toinen 10.06.2011 05:45

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Сообщение от "K-Maler (Сообщение 1661671)
And on the reverse side to enclose something soft, cotton, foam rubber or the like


Never heard of such a method!
Patent does not want?

allexx, glue necessarily bezkislotny cardboard, scree tint, and then, as advised by Pelagia Larin otherwise the bed will be lost!

Тихая Сапа 10.06.2011 09:42

Firstly , about which there are real options for the restoration you have to say restorer ( it easier to assess the extent of disasters in his hands the thing ) . I would advise to accept dublirovku basis . No , God forbid , do not push the paint layer of glass ( nikakoy. on oil or graphics ) . After cleaning and dublirovki ask restorer to make a high mount that was a space between the image and glass zakantovat and then did not touch once again

allexx 10.06.2011 09:43

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allexx, glue necessarily bezkislotny cardboard, scree tint, and then, as advised by Pelagia Larin otherwise the bed will be lost! [/QUOTE]


That is, paste the entire bed, right?


Yeah, who knows whom in Kiev can be accessed?

Toinen 10.06.2011 09:50

[QUOTE="allexx; 1661933 ']That is, paste the entire bed, right?[/QUOTE]



Exactly!
No other way.

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa; 1661931]zakantovat and then not touch it once again[/QUOTE]


And most importantly:


[QUOTE="K-Maler; 1661671
bed, do not shake


allexx 10.06.2011 11:43

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Another question: where should I store bed before being sent to restore (have to wait several days) - horizontal or vertical?

Пелагея Ларина 10.06.2011 12:48

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Сообщение от allexx (Сообщение 1662163)
Another question : where should I store bed before being sent to restore ( have to wait several days) - in vertical or horizontal ?

Certainly in the horizontal direction.

The main thing I think that in the restoration, as in medicine , the " patient " should be an individual approach - taking into account age , condition, disease and other causes , perhaps , specific features of patients .
Good luck ! Keep us informed - I think many will benefit from your experience .


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