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sportsmen 24.04.2011 22:23

Levitan, Aivazovsky German auction Karl & Faber
 
Levitan :

http://katalog.karlundfaber.de/de/i/3950343/p/1/

Provenance nobody to a private collector from Tel Aviv Peremana Jacob (Yakov Pereman)

Aivazovsky :

http://katalog.karlundfaber.de/de/i/3950317/p/2/

Provenance of the standard story , which I have not heard a dozen times : the former royal factory owner ( merchant ) , who fled after the revolution in Europe (America ) , who had previously collected Russian art. Living in Berlin ( Paris , London, New York ), kept at home this picture of a lifetime, his heirs decided to sell all the same .

Тютчев 24.04.2011 22:49

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Сообщение от sportsmen (Сообщение 1607713)
Levitan :

http://katalog.karlundfaber.de/de/i/3950343/p/1/

Provenance nobody to a private collector from Tel Aviv Peremana Jacob (Yakov Pereman)


This image is issued for the work of Levitan - one hundred percent falshaka !

In the annotation to the lot is an indication of publication :

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Literatur: A.A. Fedorow-Dawidow, "Isaak Iljitsch Lewitan. Sein Leben und Werk: 1860-1900", Aurora Kunstverlag, Leningrad 1981 .

In fact , the work " Suerki . Moon . " (1899 ), published in this monograph is in the Russian Museum ( RM ) and looks different . Even in photographs of such quality as this one can see the differences . Compare :

U_Z 24.04.2011 23:15

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Сообщение от "Tiutchev (Сообщение 1607743)
This image is issued for the work of Levitan - one hundred percent falshaka!


Of course.
And Aivazovsky identity.


Isaac Levitan.
"Twilight. Moon, 1899, oil on canvas, State Russian Museum.

uriart 25.04.2011 06:25

Tiutchev, I remember this picture because 15 years ago , walking in the Ukraine . Now that's seen her in a western gallery .
Probably decided to get rid of it . Walked she and Christie somehow .
So that it rides on the trading floors is not so difficult to track .
Just who needs it ?

Now its trying to sell in small auctions with a new provenance .

And here she is, beautiful !
http://www.artnet.com/Galleries/Arti...rt/russian-art /

Тютчев 25.04.2011 22:58

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1608011)
Tiutchev, I remember this picture because 15 years ago, walking in the Ukraine. Now that's seen her in a western gallery.
Probably decided to get rid of it. Walked she and Christie somehow.
So that it rides on the trading floors is not so difficult to track.
Just who needs it?

Now its trying to sell in small auctions with a new provenance.

And here she is, beautiful!
http://www.artnet.com/Galleries/Arti.../russian-art /


uriart, that's what is curious in the database Artprice, the data about the sale at Christie's (which is fixed to the base of Artnet, to which you link above) that is referenced in the annotations to the discussion of the subject lot, absent, but there is evidence of the other pictures from other dimensions, but with the same scenery. Ie shows the same twilight and the moon, which is a genuine work of Levitan RM collection! It turns out that there are at least two falshaka mimic the picture of the timing and both are somehow connected to Israel! Enigma! .. ;)>

Sales date 5/18/2008
Hammer price Not sold
Estimate USD 150,000 - 250,000
Medium Oil /canvas
Location Tel Aviv (ISRAEL)
Size 23.2x31.7 cm - (9 1/8x12 1 /2 in)
Auction house MatsArt Auctioneers & Appraisers
Lot number 381 A

01.05.2011 05:30

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Сообщение от Tiutchev (Сообщение 1607743)
This image is issued for the work of Levitan - one hundred percent falshaka!


I have a question about the authenticity of this work, namely, why it seems to you as falshaka.

History painting Levitan, who is now proposed to auction Karl und Faber in Germany a long time.

She really sold at Christie's in 1999.

Photo 1

Sale 8637
Imperial and Post-Revolutionary Russian Art and Icons
17 December 1999
London, South Kensington

A study for 'Twilight: the Moon' dated 1899 now in the State Russian Museum in St. Petersburg, which also holds another study.

Sold for 52,000 dollars.

Photo 2 - with Christies.
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25 November 2007 it was sold at auction Israeli Matsart with this description:

Lot 123
Isaak Ilych Levitan

Twilight over a forest lake, oil on canvas, 47 X 58 cm., Signed lower left, Provenance: Christie South Kensington, London 17 Dec 1999 lot 85

Sold For $ 190,000

photo 3

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The painting was bought at auction Matsart Gallery of Variations in Brussels. At the moment it wants to sell, nothing strange in this.

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1608011)
I remember this picture because 15 years ago, walking in the Ukraine.

I wanted to check with Uriarta. As you can see the picture in Ukraine 15 years ago, if there never was?

What about the description of the picture with a reference collection of James Peremana. Yes, it was like that. But this picture of him is irrelevant. Here, apparently, the German auction was wrong, assigning a different picture here, which is exhibited as photo 5.

In Levitan was a lot of sketches to the famous museum work, it is no secret and no mystery.

Photo 1 - discussed the picture in Germany
Photo 2 - sold at Christie's
Photo 3 - painting sold at Matsarte.
Photo 4 - painting with Galerie Variations, Brussels, Belgium.

As can be seen, this one and the same work.

Picture 5 - with a collection of James Peremana, which was sold in Israel 18 May 2008 with the start of 150,000 dollars, but not for sale.

Perhaps because of her here on the forum, and got confused.

uriart 01.05.2011 07:38

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Do not just saw , and in his hands he held .
After it was sold in a gallery . Long sold . Then offered as a leftist , ibid .
Following the traces of it disappeared . Went to Europe as he said the last owner .
And confusion may happen if such a number of repetitions .

OlegTsi and the first four photos , is not with the same job?
The difference can only see the last photo .

Here are four specially downloaded the photos . Compared them .
Clearly that the pictures of the same work .
It is a pity that I have no photos of the work that was in Kiev .

Тютчев 01.05.2011 13:01

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Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 1616721)
I have a question about the authenticity of this work, namely, why it seems to you as falshaka.

History painting Levitan, who is now proposed to auction Karl und Faber in Germany a long time.

She really sold at Christie's in 1999.

OlegTsi, in order to understand what it falshaki can compare these pictures with a genuine reference work of Levitan RM and sketches to her. Such a possibility and I UZ have provided in their positions (#2) and (#3). Of course, it is best to do this, go to St. Petersburg in order to compare with the originals. But even the photos of this quality is quite obvious that all the works written by different people (minimum two). The difference in the skill of the artist there is no doubt. Between them, the abyss! But this argument, though, and seems to me sufficient, is not unique. The fact that Levitan wrote with nature, with the exception of large works that were written in the studio on sketches made in the open air. The very logic of the creative method excludes the presence of two similar works, which would coincide on the composition and colors of the smallest detail. Such repetition is simply impossible for an artist-plenerista. Because the work he wrote with nature and, as you know, only one job at a time, rather than two and not three. And make a copy of the etudes, written from life in general is meaningless. You could argue that this only applies to sketches, but not to the work written in a workshop on pre-written sketches. But even in this case, prevent a repetition. Mechanistic repetition does not correspond to any level, nor the method of Levitan. I just do not have the same Levitan works, as well as for Monet, and any other artist with such an approach to creativity. This applies to the sketches, and paintings, written in the studio. Why Levitan write papers, so very different in terms of skill and thus coincide in a manner of composition and color? What are the creative tasks at the same time solves the artist? Even if we imagine that a customer wishes to have a copy of the picture, which is now in the timing. And suppose that Levitan agreed, modifying itself only once, and wrote two of the same work, why he did it with such a difference in performance? What made the artist's fall so low in his skills? And even if it happened (which is improbable), then why did he not immediately destroyed, "freak"?
These arguments are more than enough, in my opinion. And again I say that all the images presented in this subject, except for works that are stored in the State Russian Museum (#2,#3) are obvious falshaka.

Евгений 01.05.2011 14:02

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Сообщение от "Tiutchev (Сообщение 1617163)
These arguments are more than enough, in my opinion.
And again I say that all the images presented in this subject, except for works that are stored in the State Russian Museum (#2,#3) are obvious falshaka.

You are right, as always, 100%...

01.05.2011 16:21

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Сообщение от uriart; 1616763"
Then what argument?

No doubt. Like everything put in order, because it was easy to get lost in the above. Said about one painting, a photograph of the other.

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Сообщение от uriart; 1616763"
OlegTsi and the first four photos, is not with the same job?
The difference can only see the last photo.

I showed four pictures of the same work from different sources, and wrote about it.
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Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 1616721)
Photo 1 - discussed the picture in Germany
Photo 2 - sold at Christie's
Photo 3 - painting sold at Matsarte.
Photo 4 - painting with Galerie Variations, Brussels, Belgium.

As can be seen, this one and the same work.

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1616763)
It is a pity that I have no photos of the work that was in Kiev.

Yes, sorry, Uriart, you do not have photos of paintings, of which you mention.

Obtained such a situation:

Fake work under Levitan 15 years ago was in Ukraine. (2011-15=1996)
Then has long been one of the galleries and is offered as a fake.
Then he went abroad (apparently she was taken by kotrabandnym).
In December 1999 she was sold at Christie's in London for 52,000 dollars.
Provenance while there was no.


In November 2007 it was sold at auction Matsart Israel and was sold for 190,000 dollars. Provenance - Christie, 1999, London.

Apparently it was bought by Jacob Pereman from Israel, a collector of art Levitan, since a subsequent owner of Gallerie Variations in Brussels described in provenance and Christies and Peremana.

At this time, gallery Variations sold to someone the job (at ARTNeT was listed Sold), and that someone put it in Germany at auction Karl und Faber.

If you originally Christie made a mistake, calling a fake second etude, then, of course, is a fatal mistake. The picture has been its history and provenance, and those who do not read our forum, will continue to move it to artrynku.

Painting the picture 5 with my post number 6 is placed for general information and comparison.


That's right, think of all the simpler and on the shelves.


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