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sergVelko 18.04.2011 14:56

Venice - who is the author?
 
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Hello Dear Members, we need your help in identifying the author's works.


Thank you!

Hopefully, I'm waiting ...
:rolleyes:>

нина-нина 19.04.2011 21:36

sergVelko, you have the dimensions indicated technique.
It would be nice frame and sample.
No signature?
Similar to the 19 century.

Сима 19.04.2011 23:52

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sergVelko, the author of the original luxury absolutely known.
Do you have a simplified copy.
Compare :)>

sergVelko 20.04.2011 04:08

Seema, thanks for the reply, the similarity is undeniable!
I also suspect that it is processing a well-known authors: Caspar van Vittel, Giovanni Canaletto and Francesco Guardi, but when 2 of the paper presented by a number - the source is immediately visible.

Thank you!

Игорь Гурьев 20.04.2011 05:39

No, this is not a copy - and do not attempt to copy .
Just the usual form of the church of Santa Maria della Salute .
How many artists have written this kind , not sochtesh ...

The picture that is presented for review , nothing special is , but not terrible .
Of course , confuses the complete inability to deal with the tone , and with color , in general , too .
But some charm in it, however , very limited .

The artist , in my opinion , in principle, can not find .

Written probably in the second third of the 19 th century , and perhaps even later.

I-V 20.04.2011 22:41

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor (Сообщение 1601201)
No, this is not a copy , and do not attempt to copy .

I think it's just "trying to " copy. The author does not afford was to go in the tracks of Canaletto and, in many places it is easier for a task : somewhere reduced number of boats ( zamayalsya write )), where a " blind " the building , apparently for the same reason and etc.

Igor Sasha, look closely , it 's obvious :) >

sergejnowo 20.04.2011 22:47

sergVelko, please show a photo of the back side.

Игорь Гурьев 21.04.2011 04:39

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Сообщение от IV (Сообщение 1602133)
I think it's just "trying to" copy. The author does not afford was to go in the tracks of Canaletto and, in many places it is easier for a task: somewhere reduced number of boats (zamayalsya write)), where a "blind" the building, apparently for the same reason and etc.

Igor Sasha, look closely, it's obvious :)>

Not at all.

I may be small, but the artist, and an investigative experiment "can deliver.

Do you believe that the artist had access to the painting by Canaletto?
And he came to the museum or collection, and began to do this debilizmom?

No, of course.

The first variant.
He saw some kind of engraving is likely painted, which was depicted by Canaletto landscape, inspired them and created something "its".

I have a general suspicion that the artist in Venice been.

Option Two.
He saw the colored engravings, which was not a landscape by Canaletto, but just an ordinary engraving for tourists, and he decided to make a landscape.

All these inconsistencies with tone and color and can be explained by the fact that he wrote "based on" a little-known prints.

You know, I've been to Venice and wrote a few sketches.
But, sorry if you sit on the waterfront, it leads you the motive, not the silly fantasy, as in this picture.

So I say that Venice is not the artist saw.
But where he lived - God knows ...

Сима 21.04.2011 07:52

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor (Сообщение 1601201)
some charm in it, however , very limited .

 Indeed there is - painting , though not as flashy , but it seems to Venetian damp . Canaletto still dryish . Guardi spirit is present here , <!--~ 1 " - > doubtless . And touching reflections whitewash on the water. But I do not understand - with no other tracks to cross the same boat and gondolas with the same man, and the Marquis over a window on the right . But, of course , is the creative processing ... Against the engravings do not mind .

I-V 21.04.2011 18:50

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor (Сообщение 1602351)
He saw some kind of engraving is likely painted , which was depicted by Canaletto landscape , inspired them and created something " its ".

Yes , you're right , of course . And through all the same it was this landscape Canaletto ( could successfully collate some . details.)

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Сообщение от Sima (Сообщение 1602443)
Guardi Spirit is present here , no doubt

 interesting to compare with Nicole Guardi (Venice , 1715-1786 ) ( brother of Antonio and Francesco Guardi )


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