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AlexSpb 24.03.2011 13:00

Graphics n \\ x: Portraits Benoit, Shostakovich, Rodzianko i.t.d 1917-49gg
 
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Portraits of these I found quite a long time , about 15 years . Long ago they did not come across the name of the artist forgot to clean . Nevertheless , an artist known for the epithet " deservedly forgotten , " will hardly appropriate . Deal more in me ( old age , as many know - no joy.) Despite this, for the authenticity and accuracy of dating is ready to vouch . Of course , not wanting to offend those present at the forum of experts believe that
posts in a thread , " Help attributing " - hopeless .
Largest - Shostakovich 28x40 , the other slightly smaller but no less than A4 .
Rodzianko - 1917
Benoit - 1926
Shostakovich - 1932
Fomin (architect ) - 1933
Orbeli - 1949

About the price : Well , I do not know ... probably some minor thousand ( up to ten inclusive ) per unit , preferably all at once . I see that several ornate put it , but , unlike most vendors , though something of themselves squeezed ...

Glasha 24.03.2011 14:11

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... and the name of the artist forgot to clean ...
I believe that the post in the topic " Help attributing " - hopeless

AlexSpb, do not be so pessimistic :

this Rotach Alexander Lukic (1893 - 1990)
A graduate of the St. Petersburg Academy of Arts .
Popular in the 1930's an artist , architect and writer .
Was entree into the social circle Benoit .
( graphic artist's work can be seen in the exposition of the mansion of Count Rumyantsev and other museums in St Petersburg )

Allena 24.03.2011 15:37

September 27, 2008 watercolor AL Rotach 36 x 28 was sold at auction in the Gallery of Leonid Shishkin for 60 000 rubles (estimate 70-90 thousand).
Unfortunately, this is the only record of the artist in the base of AI.

Fed 24.03.2011 18:33

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Orbeli - 1949

It is a pity that it is not 1919 (as it seems on the printer) would be another "calico."

AlexSpb 27.03.2011 01:36

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it Rotach Alexander Lukic (1893 - 1990)
A graduate of the St. Petersburg Academy of Arts.
Well, you damn the experts here ... [with admiration, puzzled scratching his head]
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September 27, 2008 watercolor AL Rotach 36 x 28 was sold at auction in the Gallery of Leonid Shishkin for 60 000 rubles
Duc, and it ... Th I is not buying? And then look [playfully shaking his finger], I'll take a Leonid Shishkin Gallery ... Or is there (sorry for the cheap pun intended) - only Shishkins Bring?
Although, admittedly, one serious proposal in PM received - sell for good money, "a self-portrait by Alexander Benois. The rest are "self-portraits, as I understand, are not interested.
True, about the authorship I do realize a couple of hours after it opened the topic. Just shy to post immediately after so as not to give the impression of a man communicating with himself, which immediately and without me missing. That I went through some old deposits and already in this folder came across contained in this communication pattern in a series on the Leningrad flood of 1924. Then all at once, and remembered. There were about a dozen, but even then (in the past millennium) someone all of them, I begged. Only one left as a souvenir. Actually, the very first link on the artist's Rotach gives the text refer to this series:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%...BA%D0%B8%D1%87
so that I can make it to the rest of the heap. Then, the topic is not helpful, went out of town, and yesterday, when he returned, he saw that I already ahead.

And as Alexander Benois, and in connection with Leonid Shishkin remember Benoit-record holder, for a while provisevshego on my wall in the early 90's. Here he is on the old precomputer pictures. I understand that there is nothing to boast especially all the old joke:

...- I wish that I had everything!
- Are you all - it was ...

So, ponostalgirovat ... there were times, not bast soup, as they say, not all Rotach traded.
By the way, if anyone is interested, I have owned it is not very long, but possessed would be even less if not for the Tretyakov Gallery, which despite its wholly-Benoit origin of the famous house where he was virtually since its inception, has managed initially did not confirm. Even the names of heroes, "I remember well. The experts - people respected them, as opposed to different Rotach, need to know. And wore it to the Tretyakov Gallery was not me, obscure unshaven mug, and quite reputable and respectable people. Had to look more respectable man who refused were no longer able to ...

A Rotach, probably, by and large, the artist - not so hot, find something better, tomorrow or the day after lay.

U_Z 27.03.2011 03:38

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And as Alexander Benois, and in connection with Leonid Shishkin remember Benoit-record holder, for a while provisevshego on my wall in the early 90's. Here is an old precomputer pictures.

According to Leonid Shishkin Gallery, the work in the collection of family publisher I. Knebel since its inception and up for auction.

Explain, please, you are a descendant of I. Knebel and she in the 90's hanging on your wall?

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By the way, if anyone is interested, I have owned it is not very long, but possessed would be even lower if it were not for Tretyakov Gallery, which, despite wholly-Benoit origin of the famous house where he was virtually since its inception, has managed initially did not confirm that. Even the names of heroes, "I remember well. The experts - people respected them, as opposed to different Rotach, need to know. And wore it to the Tretyakov Gallery was not me, unshaven face is obscure, but quite a respected and respectable people. Had to look more respectable man who refused were no longer able...

Very interesting.

In fact, the work of well-known:

Ernst, S., A. Benoit, P., 1921, pp. 6 (mentioned in the list of works);
M. Etkind, Alexander Benois, L. - M., 1965, pp. 189, illus. 63 (work has been copied and adequately described). Later I will make pictures in this book.

What could cause issues with the attribution? In what year was it? Do not understand :confused:.

AlexSpb 27.03.2011 05:11

I am not a liar and for everything I have written, ready to respond, but if something is messed up - sincerely apologize.

How much time to see on this forum made to cut the truth-the uterus, not zamorachivayas a so-called "corporate ethics". Nevertheless, the sum of people are not very much and if my text is in some way this helps, I'm totally for it do not hold on.
Although re-read it carefully, nothing criminal is not found. The fact that the experts (like all real people) can make mistakes, it's without me, we all know. What information afforded Gallery Shishkina, I do not know, I saw only the "floating image" with the text on the front page of this site. Maybe you say something was misunderstood, and maybe this information provided a gallery of the last owner of the painting. So, no shadows on the auction is not cast in general, I see no fundamental difference in the left picture is the first home owners recently, or 15-20 years ago. The important thing is that it is absolutely true.

Your keen interest to me would have been understandable, if you - the new owner of the work. In this case, ready to walk with you (and Benoit in his hands) on a visit to the former owners. I am confident that it will make an impression on them and we can there anything else (I even know that!) - To buy.
If you are not a new owner, the ... Well I do not know, justify their interest somehow, and I promise, I will do everything possible to in personal correspondence or telephone conversation, all questions for you prooyasnit. A deal in an open topic, someone whose relative, probably does not make sense.

P.S. Of course, nobody I'm not a relative ...

U_Z 27.03.2011 20:27

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I am not a liar

I believe that. Originally believe people .

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for everything I have written , ready to respond ,

Yes , do not really like that. I just wanted to know the details , since I have an interest in this topic . Thank you for your constructive responses .

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Even the names of heroes , " I remember well . The experts - people respected them , as opposed to different Rotach , need to know .

Excuse me, but can be " heroes' names ' in PM. Thanks in advance .

U_Z 27.03.2011 20:35

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What kind of information afforded Gallery Shishkina , I do not know , I saw only the " floating image " with the text on the front page of this site . Maybe you say something was misunderstood , and maybe this information provided a gallery of the last owner of the painting.

Shishkin Gallery in auction catalog published the following information about the work .

U_Z 27.03.2011 20:40

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Below is info from the book of M. Etkind, Alexander Benois, L. - M., 1965.


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