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mark4445 10.02.2011 14:11

Help assess the subject, that the stigma?
 
Вложений: 4
Dish, diameter 40 cm, color like Gzheli.
Can anyone knows whose it is branded as a character and what may be the price?

Игорь Гурьев 10.02.2011 21:37

Pardon me, well, this is some sort of consumer goods for dining ...

mark4445 11.02.2011 14:03

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1521721)
Excuse me, well, this is some sort of consumer goods for dining ...

You forgot to add the phrase duty - "remake, made in china" :D
In fact, a Japanese porcelain, a large indoor dish, workshops Arita, late 19 - early 20 th century.
This is what I managed to dig up the network, and would like to hear from specialists who have faced such subjects live. Particularly interested in possible price. If anyone saw something similar to what any auction, please be so kind as to skinte link.

kr555 11.02.2011 14:42

In fact, a little it costs.
That can credit ended auction seller on eBay, which has only a large selection of old Imari porcelain.
Small plates go for $ 10 or not sold at all big in the 100:
http://completed.shop.ebay.com/Plate...p3286. c0.m282

But like he is now for sale luxurious dish, a much better idea:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230584218012
$ 199 looking to buy was not, the price is now reduced to 150.

Exceptions to this rule (Arita porcelain=cheap) of course there is. Dish should be izotovleno outstanding master. Then its price may be up to $ 100 thousand increase. But in this case it is obvious that the product of mass and not a museum. Yes, and I would have dated him uniquely XX century, not before.

тандем 11.02.2011 15:02

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Сообщение от "mark4445 (Сообщение 1522571)
This is actually a Japanese porcelain, a large indoor dish, workshops Arita, late 19 - early 20 th century.


Here http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/index_jap_marks.htm most complete list of all manufacturers and brands of Japanese farfora.V including Arita.

Nothing like that that you do not.

kr555 11.02.2011 15:15

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Сообщение от tandem (Сообщение 1522691)
here http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/index_jap_marks.htm the most complete list of all manufacturers and brands of Japanese farfora.V including Arita.
Nothing like that that you do not.

Yes, this is some post-war press, judging by the style of writing. There, on a site they are very sketchy, the emphasis on older, and not all small shops, even sketchy report. And there are lots out there.
Generally, once just seen that the dish is not worth in-depth analysis. It's not even hand-painted, and decals, as there is more to say ...

lazar 11.02.2011 16:08

that the stigma?
 
One may agree that the work of post-war (no cracks on the bottom)


For orientation see here


http://molotok.ru/listing.php/search...ice_to=&string =%D0%AF%D0
%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F & view = gtext & change_view = 1


Since the shock wave.

Wladzislaw 11.02.2011 16:43

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Сообщение от kr555 (Сообщение 1522651)
But like he is now for sale a luxurious dish, a much better idea:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230584218012
$ 199 looking to buy was not, the price is now reduced to 150.

Indeed, it is interesting to consider. It is a pity that the crack and the damaged image and enamel. Shipping + restoration (if still out). The price would no longer be so attractive.


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