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15.11.2009 06:14

Fakes ... Fakes ...
 
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I decided to open this topic because I feel that art collectors and members of the current auctions to behave very cautiously, just as the soldiers in a minefield ...

I invite all the insert positions of detected pseudo-creations of authors who, in fact, are the most wicked rogue, with a sneer consuming blood from admirers high.

Well, the fresh E. Rukhin on eBay. Sold - Suzaminator

Here Burliuks
1 - Sold Bulath75
2, 3 - malicious poddelschik, auction houses have flooded 3rd grade massive counterfeiting Burliuk - IWV47
4 - the hand of the same author, but the other seller - Sol215Sol
6 Here again a masterpiece Burliuk from Suzaminator
7i 8 These two uzhaza selling EZsold
9 - Another parody proposed Thebullfighter
10 - Unique to this family poddelschikov with New York - Yua77

To be continued ...

15.11.2009 06:41

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But on the line ... Sofia, Bulgaria. Here you can purchase Burliuk to load Olga Rozanova for 37 dollars. Seller Yoko977 (1 and 2)
3 picture - innovation from Burliuk, sold for $ 600 Sunsetderby
4 - And do not forget about the cow - the fear of the Sol215sol and
5 - from Shoesnut

Again, IWV47
This fruitful wizard brush can be bought Burliuk (6), while at the same time, Leonid Pasternak (7), Krasnopevtsev (8), Sitnikova (9) - and not expensive ...;)

15.11.2009 07:20

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Those who like the vanguard again helps to Bulgaria.

For you - L. Popova for 58 dollars from the K Raf, here it is possible to bribe Kees Van Dongen for 61 dollars.

Ooops ... Kliun (and may still Klyuin?) A, hto knowledge? ...
But Ekonstantinzone knowledge ... Maybe Kliun Likbez not pass?


Do not pass by Malevich. Score - 600 thousand dollars. But yet give for 1025 ... The businessman is urgently needed money ...
 
Well, until another pair masterpiece, straight from Guggenhayma, hurry, while $ 59 ... seller CK Works

And this list does not end and edge ...

To be continued ...

Евгений 15.11.2009 07:29

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Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 705312)
I invite all the insert positions of detected pseudo-creations of authors who, in fact, are the most wicked rogue, with a sneer consuming blood from admirers high.

Well, the fresh E. Rukhin on eBay

A sense of this garbage is fast? There are hundreds of them .. if not thousands, of them to do advertising? The forum already has specific topics: Stozharau, avant-garde and so on, there can continue.
Interest is information about fakes of Russian painting at SodBi, Christie + 5-6 secondary auction houses ..

sergejnowo 15.11.2009 11:38

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 705412)
What's the point with this garbage here постить?

Not all participants in the forum, including myself, supplement their collections with at SodBi, Christie + 5-6 secondary auction houses.
There were times when Sotheby's sold his record surplus stock on Ebee or leading American auctions, parallel to trading in the hall, "make" your goods at Ebey and traded in the "live" time - the end of the auction to Ebee=first hammer blow in the hall.
At the moment, at the auction late November - early December, the European and American auctions, counterfeiting is not less than Ebee, in percentage terms. Look what ended http://www.auctions-fischer.de/_shop...hp4?auktion=92 or look Shishkina or Burliuk at http://www.schloss-ahlden. de /lo /katalog.php? aid=142 ..
Legally, the difference now is basically no, only in the details.
Do you trash, yes cesspool. Certainly cesspool ...., like many other "holy" places around us.
And to me it's interesting to read - all learned in comparison.

Кирилл Сызранский 15.11.2009 11:39

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 705412)
What's the point with this garbage here постить?

When you knew of a litter
Grow verses without knowing shame,
As yellow dandelion fence,
Like burdock and quinoa.
(c)

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 705412)
interest is information about fakes of Russian painting at SodBi, Christie + 5-6 secondary auction houses ..

I find it interesting any information about fakes! Any and all the more of a specialist.
Thanks must be said, but not arrogant sniff ...

SAH 15.11.2009 12:47

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 705542)
Thank you I must say, but not arrogant sniff ...

I too think so, man spends his time shows fake and so are fighting for the purity of the market.

Konstantin 15.11.2009 13:02

Colleagues, I have removed everything that impedes the development of the topic.

15.11.2009 15:50

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 705412)
What's the point with this garbage here постить?

The idea is that by selling their forgery in the garbage type Ibey, fraudsters do not see obstacles tomorrow (today and yesterday) clog the auction houses of all levels. An example of this - my theme Forgery of Burlyuk ... And the work was purchased in 2008 at Bonham's. http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...aleSectionNo=1

Tue poppulyarizatsii another example of his works from the author IWV47. Produces its own version after selling interesting works of popular Russian artists. His forgery already sold at Christie's. http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/l...2-0138fa8cb67b

1 - original, sold at Gene Shapiro's Auct.
2 - forgery. This is not sold fake eBay and then sold at Christie's in 2007.


I do not think that such positions bring someone harm. Will he watch those who are not interested. But to write about such things should be.

Кирилл Сызранский 15.11.2009 15:59

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Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 706082)
But to write about such things should be.

Be sure and thank you!

15.11.2009 16:05

I will try to flip through their books and put the post of what happened (in connection with fraud) prior to the sale of Russian Art at Christie's in the summer of 2007. A lot of people about this and have not heard ...

Кирилл Сызранский 15.11.2009 16:20

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Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 706112)
A lot of people about this and have not heard ...

Ah, interesting-how, come on! :)

Евгений 15.11.2009 16:22

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Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 706112)
A lot of people about this and have not heard ...

Interestingly, write, honored ..

15.11.2009 17:38

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Well, found.

Before the summer Christie's auction in New York (18 April 2007), where a month before, subscribers receive their catalogs. Of course, after dushezahvatyvayuschey paintings VV Vereshchagin's Solomon's Wall, the bet was made by Christie's on another lot in value - Job Lyubov Popova - Birsky Landscape (Birsk Landscape) Lot 108. Its preliminary estimate was 700-900 thousand dollars. USA.
As the provenance was submitted to a number of owners in the past, well, in a word, everything right.

In a very short period of time correction subscribers catalogs MacDougall's auction catalogs are planned for June 15, 2007. After viewing immediately rushed into the eyes of lot 48 - Lyubov Popova, Birsky landscape. Score 500-700 thousand Br. Pounds. Open both directories began to compare - the same provenance, history and description.
It was immediately clear where the forgery.

There is a lot of questions, not unleashed until today - whether the owners simultaneously. are stupid, willing to break the double revenues in two different places, whether there was a fateful coincidence.
Christie has not had time to put this work in the public view, it immediately returned to the seller, although the directory was already too late ...

Comparing the two works in the catalog may have noticed the difference smears, the more that work at Christie looked quite fresh. But this is not doglyadeli "experienced" specialists Russian departmenta. As a result - in London on MakDugalse job was successfully sold, and at Christie's - in a short time, were dismissed Russian-speaking director of the department and assistant ...

I think that the more material mixtures of fakes, we will give, the more will benefit not only for the simple collector. Someone is counterfeiting cost the career ...


If interested, describe what happened at MakDugalls at the beginning of their activities.

Кирилл Сызранский 15.11.2009 17:58

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Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 706382)
work at Christie looked quite fresh.

And the signature is. Just the size of the horizontal difference ...

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Сообщение от OlegTsi (Сообщение 706382)
If interested, describe what happened on MakDugalls at the beginning of their careers.

Oh, and let it. : D


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