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Galyona 22.11.2009 11:49

Photography as an object of investment
 
Dear visitors of the forum, very interesting to "hear" your answers a few questions :)

1. Can a photograph be compared with artists - namely, to create images and pictures of them, because it makes the artist, painting on canvas scenes (images) out of his imagination?

2. How do you feel about the fact that the picture can be sold 100 times, namely, the circulation of 100/100 ie owner of one and the same photos can be 100 people :) and each of them pay for their mark, let's say $ 1000?

3. You buy a photo? If yes, why? If No, again, why?

I would be very glad to see your answers.

Posav 22.11.2009 12:38

Theoretically, the photographer can compare with the artist-painter, but he has other means of representation.
However, generally accepted that the artist is one who knows how to draw. Could be an artist not a man who knew how to draw? :):( Usually this will happen. Those who can not draw, and the slope is - becomes a photographer.
   If you sell an image and not the negatives /digital object and guarantees that the photographer is not zanachil stack of copies, then buy as a collector's rarity makes no sense (to me). Exceptions are retro photo negatives are likely lost. But if the photo will be autographed by the photographer, it will be more expensive. For example, the artist Fairy during the advertising companies Obama sold through online store posters drawn from photographs, like 30 dollarikov, but with his autograph and a very well earned.

Galyona 22.11.2009 12:53

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 727)
Theoretically, the photographer can compare with the artist-painter, but he has other means of representation.
However, generally accepted that the artist is one who knows how to draw. Could be an artist not a man who knew how to draw? :):( Usually this will happen. Those who can not draw, and the slope is - becomes a photographer.

Do you think photos of people who dorisovyvayut, finalizing in graphic editors their photos, thus significantly altering the originally received image?

Posav 22.11.2009 13:21

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Сообщение от Galyona (Сообщение 726352)
Do you think photos of people who dorisovyvayut, finalizing in graphic editors their photos, thus significantly altering the originally received image?

There reportage photography in which the revision is not desirable. A photographer and artist is simply obliged to work with the image .:)
If dorisovyvaetsya graphics editor, it is no longer picture obtained. Fairy traced Obama is like a vector editor and turned poster. They are simpler, one can say that you do not painter, a artist. But Associated Press filed a lawsuit with a claim on the use of their photos, but if the artist brings to the original fairly new, it is no longer a violation. Although like in this story was shown another picture, remarkably similar to a photograph of the Associated press.

gans 22.11.2009 13:29

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Сообщение от Galyona (Сообщение 726132)
1. Can a photograph be compared with artists - namely, to create images and pictures of them, because it makes the artist, painting on canvas scenes (images) out of his imagination?

2. How do you feel about the fact that the picture can be sold 100 times, namely, the circulation of 100/100 ie owner of the same picture could be 100 people and each of them pay for their mark, let's say $ 1000?

3. You buy a photo? If yes, why? If No, again, why?

1. I think the photographer does not need to be compared with the artist. Photographer, for me, completely self-contained concept.

2. More widespread circulation of 10 pcs. In our growing market think to start with "full exclusives", ie 1 pc. without repetition, then more likely to buy.

3. I buy old photos, because I like them. New not yet buy.

Galyona 22.11.2009 14:15

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Сообщение от gans (Сообщение 726462)
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2. More widespread circulation of 10 pcs. In our growing market think to start with "full exclusives", ie 1 pc. without repetition, then more likely to buy.

I totally agree with you, studying the results of auctions to sell pictures, I noticed that most of the photos are not "exclusive" and in fact because of this lose their "value" for the collector. I think that 1 copy - this is exactly what will be interesting to many.

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Сообщение от Posav (Сообщение 726442)
There is reportage photography in which the revision is not desirable. A photographer and artist is simply obliged to work with the image .:)
If dorisovyvaetsya graphics editor, it is no longer picture obtained. Fairy traced Obama is like a vector editor and turned poster. They are simpler, one can say that you do not painter, a artist. But Associated Press filed a lawsuit with a claim on the use of their photos, but if the artist brings to the original fairly new, it is no longer a violation. Although like in this story was shown another picture, remarkably similar to a photograph of the Associated press.

Once I visited the occupation of Kiev Photoschool ... there sounded an example of a photographer working for an agency known ... as we were told in the process turned out that its finished the photographer takes pictures in the graphical editor. As a result of his photos over the years were removed, and he was fired ...

You just noticed that overseas call artist. I think that Fairy exactly actor, but not an artist and photographer :)

Konstantin 22.11.2009 15:27

I personally do not buy and that surprises me those who buy the picture, but being somehow Gallery Lumiere, watched a lively trade photographs at prices an average of about 10 000 rubles. (approximately $ 300). Circulation designated 10-15 pcs. and with the mandatory signature of the author. However, I do not understand how to make sure that the circulation of 10 pcs.

Пар-И 22.11.2009 15:40

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 726752)
Circulation designated 10-15 pcs. and with the mandatory signature of the author. However, I do not understand how to make sure that the circulation of 10 pcs.

This question I zadoval them the same answer. decency galleries and the author himself, the negatives remain with the author ...

Galyona 22.11.2009 17:02

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Сообщение от steam-I (Сообщение 726802)
This question I zadoval them the same answer. decency galleries and the author himself, the negatives are the author ...

Consequently, buying a photograph, a circulation of more than 1 copies. collector is exempt from the photo multiplier, which means that his investment will fall short of his hopes ...
But because they are buying!
For example: http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/s...010601n#action = refine & selectedids = 18 & CID = 5447010010601n & sid = 9280fe25-31fa-4e51-bb41-c7764da521a1

Vladimir 22.11.2009 23:14

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 726752)
I personally do not buy and that surprises me those who buy the photograph

Not yet bought, but there is a desire and this need. I think that is very promising field and in the next few years the pace. Fears exactly the same as with any lottery drawing - a lot rests on the reputation of the author and his dealer. Nonetheless, it is a genre - someone who has to start to trust.

All of these runs and Photoshop - things technical. If something knocks that you'll think about the nuances in the last turn.


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