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Marmozetka 13.03.2009 01:47

Russian Porcelain
 
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Dear Sirs
These vases - interested in your impression. And could you please advise the expert? Where is preferable to search - in Kuskovo or museum DPI? Or are there alternatives?
Thanks

uriart 13.03.2009 10:10

These vases unfortunately no relation to the IPE are not!
Replica FROM EUROPE !!!!!!!!!!!

Marmozetka 13.03.2009 10:15

And what you call "replica"? What time limit may include the term "replica"?

Евгений 13.03.2009 10:17

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 263046)
replica FROM EUROPE !!!!!!!!!!!

Go? Outwardly, it feels good ..
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A pair of porcelain vases. Imperial Porcelain Factory. Time of Emperor Nicholas I (1825-1855). Collection of Rostropovich - GP Vishnevskaya. Sotheby's. 2007

SergeiSK 13.03.2009 11:53

Vase from the palace! Type "chairs from the palace":)
Please indicate the size and condition. Are there any chips, cracks? Ready to buy for the interior. Price and terms - in private messages.

Marmozetka 13.03.2009 13:42

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So it I want to show - vials of silver /gold-plated with the date 1830 and plant pots.
And yet - which begins replica? If Nicholas porcelain from 1825 to 1855, at what time we should start counting replica? On the upper bound not ask - this is understandable. And what is the basis opinion?

Marmozetka 13.03.2009 14:16

"One of the gala dinner services IPE, was common in the palace during the reign of Emperor Nicholas I, was a" cobalt "service, which was a repetition of the better known" cobalt "service, produced by the Vienna manufactory. Austrian Emperor Joseph II, while in the Count and Countess of Northern (as called themselves the Grand Duke Paul Petrovich and Grand Duchess Maria Feodorovna during his trip to Europe) tried his best to attract the sympathy of Pavel Petrovich. At the Vienna manufactory by the Imperial instructions had been given the order for manufacturing services for the heir to the Russian throne. a model for the service provided the luxury tableware Sevres , presented in 1768 by Louis XV to the Danish King Christian VII. Viennese dinner service, decorated with gold filigree ornament «cailloute» (in french - cobble) on cobalt background with polychrome bunches of flowers in the reserves, framed by golden rocaille, distinguished luxury and splendor.
In 1840 Cobalt service was in the Gatchina palace in the Priory, and that's when it was replenished by the IPE. So far, 73 remained the subject.
During these years, the Imperial Porcelain Factory was forced to make many copies of Western European porcelain, which was necessary to replenish the pantry tableware Winter Palace to replace the lost items, he copied the sets and the suburban palaces. 
 Along with the big special occasions dinnerware and vases factory produced various genres of sculpture, bottles, Easter eggs and other items. "
Russian porcelain. - M., "Planet", 1993.
  "Russian porcelain. 250 years of history. The anniversary of the Lomonosov Porcelain Factory "(Moscow, 1994).
TA Kudryavtseva "Russian Imperial Porcelain" (2003).
These vases are not "cobalt-service", of course, but this is the issue of "Europe".

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 263046)
These vases unfortunately no relation to the IPE are not!
Replica FROM EUROPE !!!!!!!!!!!

And yet, Uriart, I would like your arguments in favor of
  a) replica
c) Europe.
And the verdict - you can post, and not instead of?

uriart 14.03.2009 21:00

Because the flowering of Russian porcelain is precisely accounted for during the reign of Nicholas-I.
Sloppy, dirty paint. Poor painted flowers. And the people? This is just terrible!
Yahoo combination of blue with other colors.
Click on the album please IPE and you'll see the difference.
Even if we consider that these vases were sold from the factory IPE as inferior goods, and this category does not pull. Sorry!
To see whose replica, Russian or European they need to hold in their hands.
More until I have nothing to add.
If you have not bought, then do not try to buy then you spit on their own behalf

Евгений 15.03.2009 07:38

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 263066)
collection of Rostropovich - GP Vishnevskaya

Yura, these vase paintings at the level of apprentices .. but not like fufel.

uriart 15.03.2009 08:03

Zhenya, not lying!
On the vases from the collection of paintings is not the level of apprentices!
And you saw it and know yourself.
And only the blind will not see the difference.


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